Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.059 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.88; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.03; 'default.': 0.07; 'complaining': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'subject:posting': 0.09; 'thread': 0.11; 'aug': 0.13; 'agree.': 0.16; 'complain,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'subject:] ': 0.19; 'received:209.85.214.174': 0.21; 'am,': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'regular': 0.27; 'lines': 0.28; 'rest': 0.28; 'post': 0.28; '(possibly': 0.29; 'probably': 0.29; 'fri,': 0.30; 'text,': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; "can't": 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'text.': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'add': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'be.': 0.36; 'generation': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'enough': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'uses': 0.37; 'quite': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'mark': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'delete': 0.38; 'several': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:209.85.214': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'help': 0.40; 'bottom': 0.60; "you've": 0.61; 'internet,': 0.61; 'voice': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'august': 0.66; 'born': 0.71; 'enlightened': 0.84; 'underneath': 0.84; 'mails': 0.88; 'difficult,': 0.91; 'assured': 0.93; 'subject:Top': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=48bq/bIu2SCZLWH2zi3EIyXT3ZS2SxpLVSc6hP1aMz4=; b=q5ZQhQX5x+zX/M+cM1EqiA3fCVKDxxfe2KTu00YWQUxPt3l596kUZftXOBnywQ5vCr 1wV+kHW0XO5ETjOq/ztNtgbZbcF53tNidiMVUL3ZTCl3AEZj9BC6i5y7SJZ3Lft08PgW k31nXLQMVRkQloAnZpw4tBPYsACROCwNZaCPpsfJ+ynFRRiBuTatl0iQ/sEAR+74BKEz moaCdGXtwVmgJCaVIKKzWOxDbB1fG3t/DSlG0iveW0mheUZjwiRwZ/ReoUvPG3aOyVIf 5FBzdM7ypYys3AUPyyhcnlpmRmeK3J3P8Hz7rYqdVQRdaVMf+a//NWuFHfJ+ZN3RCr0t R6LQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:36:13 +1000 Subject: Top-posting &c. (was Re: [ANNC] pybotwar-0.8) From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1345156576 news.xs4all.nl 6982 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33652 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:27206 On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Ramchandra Apte wrote: > On 16 August 2012 21:00, Mark Lawrence wrote: >> and "bottom" reads better than "top" >> > Look you are the only person complaining about top-posting. > GMail uses top-posting by default. > I can't help it if you feel irritated by it. I post using gmail, and I just delete two blank lines at the top and go down the bottom to type. But on the way down, I also trim quoted text, so people don't have to download and read the entire thread for every new post. It's not difficult, you should give it a try some time! And FWIW, I add my voice to those who prefer to read replies underneath the original text. Even if Mark were the only person vocal enough to complain, you can still rest assured that there are many more who agree. You've now heard from quite a few regular posters; there are probably several *hundred* lurkers who feel the same way, but do not post (possibly because they cannot). Also, these mails get archived all over the internet, so a generation not yet born can read and be either enlightened or irritated, as the case may be. ChrisA