Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!goblin3!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.014 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'url:launchpad': 0.05; '<>,': 0.07; 'correct.': 0.07; 'duplicate': 0.07; 'steve': 0.09; 'suppress': 0.09; 'throws': 0.09; 'mailman': 0.10; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.11; 'gpg': 0.16; 'otherwise:': 0.16; 'url:bazaar': 0.16; 'url:head': 0.16; 'url:py': 0.16; 'url :~mailman-coders': 0.16; 'usenet': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'url:view': 0.20; 'seems': 0.21; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'case.': 0.24; 'sends': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'source': 0.25; '+0200': 0.26; '15,': 0.26; 'second': 0.26; 'world,': 0.26; 'gets': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'getting': 0.31; 'reply.': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'apply,': 0.36; 'earth': 0.36; 'replies': 0.36; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'list.': 0.37; 'pm,': 0.38; 'enough': 0.39; 'mailing': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'no.': 0.61; 'url:3': 0.61; 'from:charset:utf-8': 0.61; 'name': 0.63; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.65; 'direct': 0.67; 'url:0': 0.67; 'copies.': 0.68; 'presented': 0.69; '8bit%:43': 0.74; 'intelligent': 0.74; 'actually,': 0.84; 'personally.': 0.84; 'subject:Don': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92; 'url:tk': 0.95; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:cc :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eEHCIZH7XYm/9UFUBUQl/W5cVFk0h1Kqkx/YaNrMAfs=; b=qBhHxG4xmu5NTF43GSBGtWl0qlO6b14h3qJMcM2/QwEu5zTRSbKKcqLujqbM6uMR0L 9Ny34h5LDVrrR1Eku56JQXAdzwDiWhiM5k0PWvT8kBivCHQk635Q/9YhL8XdGf342KHw QoVpxUbXYOeLmTU3xJra9P2aiI9m2jUhS16kVWZ2K6ig/2vjl4kSdubW9eHvF8Hcpais 4XyDZ+BmvsyY2Pf/xKsx18aafIxEPJ78bnVkE2WQZm/6KvtS7LmhQFwV/diHaIQPk9ph WObSH/z0nnDasVlR1Um1L4K/TG9AE8iMMlbUs1eUwajO7yjqRB2kl8XIUO63uSxQNb0f /4KA== X-Received: by 10.50.23.8 with SMTP id i8mr1462698igf.42.1371317141278; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 10:25:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20130615130729.574fc00b@imp> References: <7wfvwkcihf.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <20130615020957.GA72426@cskk.homeip.net> <7w61xfa9y8.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <51bc8af2$0$29997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <20130615130729.574fc00b@imp> From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2hyaXMg4oCcS3dwb2xza2HigJ0gV2Fycmljaw==?= Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:25:21 +0200 Subject: Re: Don't feed the troll... Cc: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1371317151 news.xs4all.nl 15964 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53606 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:48327 On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:07 PM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 18:41:41 +0200 > Chris =E2=80=9CKwpolska=E2=80=9D Warrick wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Steven D'Aprano >> wrote: >> > In the name of all that's good and decent in the world, why on earth >> > would you do that when replying to a mailing list??? They're already >> > getting a reply. Sending them TWO identical replies is just rude. >> >> Mailman is intelligent enough not to send a second copy in that case. >> This message was sent with a CC, and you got only one copy. > > Actually, no. Mailman is not your MTA. It only gets the email sent to > the mailing list. Your MTA sends the other one directly so Steve is > correct. He gets two copies. If his client doesn't suppress the > duplicate then he will be presented with both. The source code seems to think otherwise: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/3.0/view/head:/src/mail= man/handlers/avoid_duplicates.py On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Wrong. I got two copies. One via comp.lang.python, and one direct to me. You are subscribed through Usenet and not , in which case the above doesn=E2=80=99t apply, because Mailman throws the mail to Usenet = and not you personally. -- Kwpolska | GPG KEY: 5EAAEA16 stop html mail | always bottom-post http://asciiribbon.org | http://caliburn.nl/topposting.html