Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'context': 0.05; 'e.g.,': 0.07; 'alter': 0.09; 'called.': 0.09; 'interpreter,': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'stdout': 0.09; 'sys.stdout': 0.09; 'troubleshoot': 0.09; 'output': 0.13; 'justified': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'tty': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'windows': 0.20; 'disable': 0.22; 'strip': 0.22; 'sort': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; '(e.g.,': 0.27; 'function': 0.28; 'ansi': 0.29; 'case).': 0.29; 'allows': 0.30; 'code': 0.30; 'waste': 0.30; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.34; 'me?': 0.34; 'gets': 0.35; 'skip:* 20': 0.35; 'unicode': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'sometimes': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'cases': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'things': 0.38; 'end': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'questions': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'behavior': 0.61; 'skip:n 10': 0.62; 'wish': 0.71; 'sounds': 0.76; 'received:89': 0.80; 'colored': 0.91; 'edwards': 0.91; 'thing,': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Akira Li <4kir4.1i@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Context-aware return Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 23:15:31 +0300 References: <55f1c3c6$0$1659$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89.169.229.68 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:mcq5OOJZctReW8qQAHsvx93eVpQ= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1441916238 news.xs4all.nl 23852 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45449 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:96300 Grant Edwards writes: > On 2015-09-10, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> I have a function which is intended for use at the interactive interpreter, >> but may sometimes be used non-interactively. I wish to change it's output >> depending on the context of how it is being called. > > [...] > > Sounds like an excellent way to waste somebody's afternoon when they > start to troubleshoot code that's using your function. Over and over > and over we tell newbies who have questions about what something > returns or how it works > > "Start up an interactive session, and try it!". > > If word gets out about functions like yours, we sort of end up looking > like twits. > >> If I did this thing, would people follow me down the street booing >> and jeering and throwing things at me? > > Only the people who use your function. :) There are cases when it might be justified to alter the behavior e.g., *colorama* allows to strip ANSI codes (e.g., disable colored output) if stdout is not a tty or *win-unicode-console* make sys.stdout to use WriteConsoleW() to write Unicode to Windows console (interactive case).