Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.049 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.90; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'referring': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'replied': 0.09; 'wrote': 0.14; 'attributed': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'preserve': 0.16; 'quoted': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; ':-)': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'earlier': 0.24; 'looks': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'chris': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'lines': 0.31; 'material.': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'becomes': 0.33; 'material': 0.36; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'issue': 0.38; 'track': 0.38; 'quote': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'remove': 0.60; 'removing': 0.60; 'free': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'show': 0.63; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.65; 'world': 0.66; 'believe': 0.68; '8bit%:21': 0.69; '\xe2\x80\x93': 0.77; 'forth': 0.81; '2015': 0.84; 'crush': 0.84; 'omission': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'tolerance': 0.84; '\xe2\x80\x9cwe': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: OFFTOPIC, WAS Re: Confessions of a Python fanboy Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 12:41:05 +1000 References: <56a4cc19-a6c1-4c55-873f-e944d4ad9165@googlegroups.com> <2b126a09-04e2-4821-9713-4ac0f66c4258@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:HPDnv1kzA20nbFaV9zfAJr1cuDg= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1431312074 news.xs4all.nl 2859 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51165 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:90337 zipher writes: > On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 9:18:55 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: > > That actually has nothing to do with it. You're still quoting > > without citation. > > Well, I replied right at the point of my correspondent (Alex23). That's not the issue :-) The omission Chris is referring to is: in earlier messages, you were stripping the “attribution line” from directly above the quoted material. That makes it anonymous, and it becomes difficult to track who said what. The attribution line looks like: “On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 9:18:55 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:” without the quote marks. You need to preserve the attribution lines – as you did on the message just now, that I'm replying to – in order to show who wrote what quoted material. Only remove attribution lines if you're *also* removing all of the attributed material. Keep attribution lines for the material you're quoting. -- \ “We have to go forth and crush every world view that doesn't | `\ believe in tolerance and free speech.” —David Brin | _o__) | Ben Finney