Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.014 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'moderation': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'jan': 0.12; 'question.': 0.14; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'two.': 0.16; 'usenet': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'things.': 0.19; 'seems': 0.21; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'gateway': 0.24; 'pass': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'michael': 0.29; 'possible.': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'list': 0.37; 'problems': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'changed': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'received:173': 0.61; 'such': 0.63; 'spam.': 0.64; 'side': 0.67; 'benefit': 0.68; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'subject:Managing': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: Managing Google Groups headaches Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 17:44:15 -0500 References: <5f370a06-8d2c-4d7d-bc22-b9a489c15c59@googlegroups.com> <834d2e9d-2fb2-4401-82fe-dbe161d6d362@googlegroups.com> <529763FF.2030305@gmail.com> <15E5E7AA-FBFF-456F-B62A-2FC55DA0380A@gmail.com> <52978B79.8030600@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-75-254-207.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 In-Reply-To: <52978B79.8030600@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1385678678 news.xs4all.nl 15901 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59155 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:60740 On 11/28/2013 1:29 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: > Seems like 90% of the problems on this list come from the unchecked > usenet side of things. Such as trolls or spam. ... > Despite many calls to banish [such] ... > with usenet it's just not possible. The usenet gateway has been changed recently to no longer pass everything to python-list (and on to gmane) without question. If you want the benefit of such moderation as there is, use either of those two. -- Terry Jan Reedy