Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'talks': 0.03; 'encoding': 0.05; 'that?': 0.05; 'utf-8': 0.07; 'bits': 0.09; 'subject:few': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'lengths': 0.16; 'nick': 0.16; 'octets': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'variable': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; 'separate': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'byte': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; '15,': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'especially': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'schemes': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.33; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'received:209.85.220': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'sure': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'everybody': 0.60; 'first': 0.61; 'networking': 0.64; 'smith': 0.68; 'to:addr:support': 0.84; 'joel': 0.91; 'mean.': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=YHzcF4NSAEqlwLdnn5rsKoKaFIHlnGW8shjRi72+uHY=; b=JtbI5zK3BsrwFmfwrLyZARhDu0zrXJ/jtPOA21SzXu1IERBw07OmNPsEh55EGvoHX8 XUV4AoVdjuPeflyXw7DdnoQMnVJtOKquPjpl9n5+wYqOU9Z+eV9cfQR3EmzNj6YXaP8e fXbbRFX9eD1qbOIjOOJWKDK8+cl5HXV20gAazVv+OUEvZDoLh4yalpTw14KkarSPCgQp bNgw65hwN+L6WkrRBAJ3JzSqFsfIxcpNtRBVTrSqcc4M+Y+7us/eALEenwAPgo4qUHYK MuF2C4veAoMcKLPy3+bfPasDeYctXc7MXBz/Tu6mxHjQ+BbcHM4Kr+3xyWAC2JUi+/1B av9Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.164.211 with SMTP id ys19mr1942227vdb.102.1371310517929; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 08:35:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 11:35:17 -0400 Subject: Re: A few questiosn about encoding From: Joel Goldstick To: Nick the Gr33k Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c24e124c540904df331cc6 Cc: "python-list@python.org" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 90 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1371310527 news.xs4all.nl 15927 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51216 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:48311 --001a11c24e124c540904df331cc6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Nick the Gr33k wrot= e: > On 15/6/2013 5:59 =CE=BC=CE=BC, Roy Smith wrote: > > And, yes, especially in networking, everybody talks about octets when >> they want to make sure people understand what they mean. >> > > 1 byte =3D 8 bits > > in networking though since we do not use encoding schemes with variable > lengths like utf-8 is, how do we separate when a byte value start and whe= n > it stops? > > do we need a start bit and a stop bit for that? > > > And this is specific to python how? > > > > -- > What is now proved was at first only imagined! > -- > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/python-list > --=20 Joel Goldstick http://joelgoldstick.com --001a11c24e124c540904df331cc6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Nick the Gr33k = <support@super= host.gr> wrote:
On 15/6= /2013 5:59 =CE=BC=CE=BC, Roy Smith wrote:

And, yes, especially in networking, everybody talks about octets when
they want to make sure people understand what they mean.

1 byte =3D 8 bits

in networking though since we do not use encoding schemes with variable len= gths like utf-8 is, how do we separate when a byte value start and when it = stops?

do we need a start bit and a stop bit for that?

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And this is specific to python how?
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