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From: Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Getting the Appdata Directory with Python and PEP?
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 16:29:37 -0500
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On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 08:11:30 -0800 (PST), Eamonn Rea <eamonnrea@gmail.com>
declaimed the following:

>Oh, sorry, I'm new to how Google Groups works. I wonder why it lays it out like that. Can it not just show quotes like the way that PHPbb does?
>

	Google Groups works well as long as the messages stay on GG...

	It's what it does when translating between GG's HTML and the rest of
the world using NNTP/SMTP standards that causes the problems.

	SMTP/NNTP standards recommend lines of <80 characters (Hollerith punch
card/old teletype/terminal physical limit). MIME Quoted-Printable permits
virtual long lines by 1) message header identifying QP format, 2) using an
=<newline> to break the long line into shorter segments. Clients would
remove the =<newline> and unwrap the longer line.

	GG /appears/ to be replacing new-lines with HTTP <P> markers for
received messages. The problem is that on output back to the net, it seems
to then replace the <P> with TWO new-lines (ie; puts in a blank line
between every original line). And since it treats everything one enters as
an HTML <P>, it is sending paragraphs as one line of text.

	PHPbb would have to go through hoops too, to transfer messages from its
internal format (HTML) to non-HTML NNTP/SMTP format.

	GG's change (sometime last year as I recall) simplified the web-based
handling of its messages -- at the cost of trashing classical Usenet and
Mailing lists that it cross-links.
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