Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'completeness': 0.07; 'variables.': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; "object's": 0.09; 'received:155': 0.09; '"private"': 0.16; 'attributes.': 0.16; 'disclaimers': 0.16; 'disclaimers,': 0.16; 'from:addr:jpmorgan.com': 0.16; 'gregory': 0.16; 'received:155.180': 0.16; 'received:155.180.234': 0.16; 'received:159.53': 0.16; 'received:159.53.110': 0.16; 'received:169.70': 0.16; 'received:169.70.184': 0.16; 'received:bankone.net': 0.16; 'received:exchad.jpmchase.net': 0.16; 'received:jpmchase.com': 0.16; 'received:jpmchase.net': 0.16; 'received:svr.bankone.net': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'securities,': 0.16; 'url:disclosures': 0.16; 'url:jpmorgan': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; '(or': 0.18; 'to:name:python- list@python.org': 0.20; 'object.': 0.22; 'subject:skip:i 10': 0.22; 'tells': 0.22; 'to:2**1': 0.23; 'received:169.254': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'accuracy': 0.27; 'subject:list': 0.28; 'finds': 0.29; 'received:169': 0.29; 'function': 0.30; 'header:Received:8': 0.30; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'whatever': 0.35; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'data': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'comment': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'called': 0.39; 'where': 0.40; 'subject:-': 0.40; 'information,': 0.63; 'url:email': 0.63; 'legal': 0.65; 'subject': 0.66; 'purchase': 0.67; 'social': 0.69; 'smith': 0.71; 'sale': 0.76; 'bot': 0.84; 'received:169.254.8': 0.84 X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.1.3 sj3.jpmchase.com qA7FwXxp023515 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jpmorgan.com; s=smtpout; t=1352303913; bh=qfqYYFdkMf4Vw7hFF3faN2Cb/mwsqsDxj4S1v7KlZQk=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oB+tRyoxGVEsTgup+i6rFEIR641lohg7Kdgq1AMIiRub/ijTzj5/soRbuTctj2XhJ qa3MtBAehLlnb+J82prHZBKiOLl9XSB8nr93gJX3Ft8zrgrw2IIv+lbSjPb00MSaND jQENPYqK2eJ/0itY9Ff7oitXhhhlAKcKoiin3m7U= From: "Prasad, Ramit" To: Gregory Ewing , "python-list@python.org" Subject: RE: Multi-dimensional list initialization Thread-Topic: Multi-dimensional list initialization Thread-Index: AQHNvKZ1qOr0cXvBdU2FrAoICmLR4JfeLPOAgABakCA= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 15:57:38 +0000 References: <50978323$0$6908$e4fe514c@news2.news.xs4all.nl> <5098d2ac$0$29980$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <50999214.50100@r3dsolutions.com> <5099ec1d$0$21759$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.67.79.47] Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP-FWD: Yes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 12 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1352303916 news.xs4all.nl 6984 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33495 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:32890 Gregory Ewing wrote:=0D=0A> =0D=0A> Roy Smith wrote:=0D=0A> > Call by socia= l network? The called function likes the object=2E=0D=0A> > Depending on h= ow it feels, it can also comment on some of the object's=0D=0A> > attribute= s=2E=0D=0A> =0D=0A> And then finds that it has inadvertently shared all its= =0D=0A> private data with other functions accessing the object=2E=0D=0A=0D= =0AAnd this is where Dihedral 8888 (or whatever the bot is called)=0D=0Atel= ls you that Python has no "private" variables=2E :)=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A~Ramit= =0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0AThis email is confidential and subject to important discl= aimers and=0D=0Aconditions including on offers for the purchase or sale of= =0D=0Asecurities, accuracy and completeness of information, viruses,=0D=0Ac= onfidentiality, legal privilege, and legal entity disclaimers,=0D=0Aavailab= le at http://www=2Ejpmorgan=2Ecom/pages/disclosures/email=2E