Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.franciliens.net!fdn.fr!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.026 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'funny,': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; "wouldn't": 0.14; 'buggy': 0.16; 'dump': 0.16; 'oppose': 0.16; 'planet,': 0.16; 'reasonably': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:dyn.optonline.net': 0.16; 'received:optonline.net': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'travis': 0.16; 'usenet': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thoughts': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'alternate': 0.24; 'necessary.': 0.24; 'setup,': 0.24; 'post': 0.26; 'supported': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'michael': 0.29; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'work.': 0.31; 'getting': 0.31; '(maybe': 0.31; 'proposing': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'editor': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'google': 0.35; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'useful': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'system,': 0.38; 'nov': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'mailing': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'forum': 0.61; 'reaching': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'love': 0.65; 'iphone': 0.65; 'here': 0.66; 'e-mail.': 0.70; 'press': 0.70; 'internet': 0.71; 'wave': 0.74; 'climate': 0.84; 'easier,': 0.84; 'here!': 0.84; 'off,': 0.84; 'subject:Managing': 0.84; '2013,': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ned Batchelder Subject: Re: Managing Google Groups headaches Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 12:23:06 -0500 References: <5f370a06-8d2c-4d7d-bc22-b9a489c15c59@googlegroups.com> <834d2e9d-2fb2-4401-82fe-dbe161d6d362@googlegroups.com> <529763FF.2030305@gmail.com> <15E5E7AA-FBFF-456F-B62A-2FC55DA0380A@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ool-4356373c.dyn.optonline.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 In-Reply-To: <15E5E7AA-FBFF-456F-B62A-2FC55DA0380A@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 40 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1385659506 news.xs4all.nl 15887 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38278 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:60713 On 11/28/13 11:23 AM, Travis Griggs wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 28, 2013, at 7:40, Michael Torrie wrote: >> >>> On 11/28/2013 08:08 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> Which is easier, fiddling around with your setup so you can post >>> reasonably on Google Groups, or just getting a better client? With >>> your setup, you have to drop out to another editor and press F9 for it >>> to work. With pretty much any other newsreader on the planet, this >>> works straight off, no setup necessary. >>> >>> I'm still going to advise people to stop using buggy rubbish. >> >> My opinion is that the Python list should dump the Usenet tie-in and >> just go straight e-mail. Python is the only list I'm on that has a >> usenet gateway. >> >> I used to love usenet back in the day, but in the present internet >> climate makes it unworkable, though I concede that e-mail is reaching >> the end of its usefulness as well. >> >> I wouldn't oppose a dual e-mail list and web-based forum system, >> provided the forum system supported threaded conversations in a clean >> and useful way (maybe like google wave used to). >> -- >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > > Here! Here! Well said and amen. My thoughts exactly. > Funny, I thought the sentiment of many here was, "let's just keep this as a newsgroup, why do we need the mailing list also?" but I'll admit to being confused about what people have been proposing for alternate topologies. --Ned.