Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.169 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.66; '*S*': 0.00; 'python': 0.11; "wouldn't": 0.14; 'buggy': 0.16; 'dump': 0.16; 'oppose': 0.16; 'planet,': 0.16; 'reasonably': 0.16; 'received:192.168.1.4': 0.16; 'usenet': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thoughts': 0.19; 'to:name:python- list@python.org': 0.22; 'necessary.': 0.24; 'setup,': 0.24; 'post': 0.26; 'supported': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'michael': 0.29; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'work.': 0.31; 'getting': 0.31; '(maybe': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'editor': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'google': 0.35; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'useful': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'system,': 0.38; 'message- id:@gmail.com': 0.38; 'nov': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'forum': 0.61; 'reaching': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.63; 'love': 0.65; 'iphone': 0.65; 'e-mail.': 0.70; 'press': 0.70; 'internet': 0.71; 'wave': 0.74; 'climate': 0.84; 'easier,': 0.84; 'here!': 0.84; 'off,': 0.84; 'subject:Managing': 0.84; '2013,': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=AhkRmB+5xntkIvAePYQt485T4g/vMoiLdiPh6VZAy3M=; b=pI4eDBwpLtpnoamV8muDzq9onTa/zgXBQx4F/raetsYMPUJ6LYtvUHen+Vqvoq3t1r ERUJn9qSJCkaiQ8wCTSr+m6wAnFEmi4f+onLPeA/lPrPBdedHUhvtg00wadBqSR5Df+S G0ZMHfyNelpnfUeulBCNXfcd8jpY3gFA1CGdDWt6l0NpTwWoPcpnh6ijtnW8hTkQeAbP K4h0pqCovjZei7sdPKRihGZrmX0cmSonZbyWxRoZJv1Kliixs/kjiDjC/7/6ThakoIwt xC+sdJRX8mmZUXisz0vpy/t70fZpADhO39L/NM44LVlclYe1IMgIq2soMRF0HmSrzLfn W+kg== X-Received: by 10.69.31.33 with SMTP id kj1mr9366369pbd.187.1385655811068; Thu, 28 Nov 2013 08:23:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Managing Google Groups headaches References: <5f370a06-8d2c-4d7d-bc22-b9a489c15c59@googlegroups.com> <834d2e9d-2fb2-4401-82fe-dbe161d6d362@googlegroups.com> <529763FF.2030305@gmail.com> From: Travis Griggs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11B554a) In-Reply-To: <529763FF.2030305@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 08:23:31 -0800 To: "python-list@python.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1385655814 news.xs4all.nl 15941 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40253 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:60704 Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 28, 2013, at 7:40, Michael Torrie wrote: > >> On 11/28/2013 08:08 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> Which is easier, fiddling around with your setup so you can post >> reasonably on Google Groups, or just getting a better client? With >> your setup, you have to drop out to another editor and press F9 for it >> to work. With pretty much any other newsreader on the planet, this >> works straight off, no setup necessary. >> >> I'm still going to advise people to stop using buggy rubbish. > > My opinion is that the Python list should dump the Usenet tie-in and > just go straight e-mail. Python is the only list I'm on that has a > usenet gateway. > > I used to love usenet back in the day, but in the present internet > climate makes it unworkable, though I concede that e-mail is reaching > the end of its usefulness as well. > > I wouldn't oppose a dual e-mail list and web-based forum system, > provided the forum system supported threaded conversations in a clean > and useful way (maybe like google wave used to). > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Here! Here! Well said and amen. My thoughts exactly.