Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.048 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.90; '*S*': 0.00; 'algorithm': 0.04; '128': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'creates': 0.14; 'times,': 0.14; '1:13': 0.16; 'cases:': 0.16; 'clues': 0.16; 'posted.': 0.16; 'sense,': 0.16; 'solver': 0.16; 'solver.': 0.16; 'vastly': 0.16; 'wording': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'solution.': 0.20; '>>>': 0.22; 'example': 0.22; 'error': 0.23; 'specify': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'equivalent': 0.26; 'gets': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; '(since': 0.31; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'possible': 0.36; 'wrong': 0.37; 'christian': 0.38; 'minimum': 0.38; 'ends': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'recent': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'ian': 0.60; 'times': 0.62; 'different': 0.65; '30,': 0.65; 'mar': 0.68; 'sound': 0.68; 'eight': 0.74; '2015': 0.84; '5.9': 0.84; '884': 0.84; 'benchmark': 0.84; 'mirroring': 0.84; 'right).': 0.84; 'careful': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=panKEEV4YRgIKkyjHMGtEiNO8JoVsAIVuXTvnNEkrKI=; b=MWBeroaIiNEWznN7vOZk1PmFlohFbs3VTBKeeRVGf09LRibh4swPMDXSRoPOYUMJn4 DmdrVgOKd0B0htKSgA3zPBi2CCyUOOAIQC3Gt7wn/d5V8Awmf0BEoo5nhASkII6u8IPR i0kSjXcFNyyL53Ty55uuw57WW9I7yIoLHHHgyZF3kEAwldkpb+3h6xug46+JoLN/+9va 60s1pwQISAOj+i3AktjPBiBM64DK3/gu7qiXiXJ0n5PNJczKy0bVtz3dg9UyrNd+mMNc EvekpfMg35/0gi69y0im9MTjhaouuLikHv0U5ce1NQon61pmWMlLeHuGDyp2aktfoJ4F 12uA== X-Received: by 10.66.65.234 with SMTP id a10mr14590799pat.120.1427700624050; Mon, 30 Mar 2015 00:30:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <87r3sdnw5t.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <4e81bdb9-52db-46e6-b449-d4241cb2a3f2@googlegroups.com> <87twx8amww.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <82e7c5b9-2f0f-405b-859c-b74916c475e0@googlegroups.com> <55176c2c$0$13009$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87619j7kbu.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> From: Ian Kelly Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 01:29:42 -0600 Subject: Re: Sudoku solver To: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.19 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1427700626 news.xs4all.nl 2951 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45990 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:88321 On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:13 AM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > Am 30.03.15 um 08:50 schrieb Ian Kelly: >> >> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >>> >>> Be careful with the benchmark comparisons. Ian's example can be solved >>> with the identical algorithm in eight different ways (four corners, left >>> or right). I ran the example with my recent Python solver and got these >>> times in the eight cases: >>> >>> 884 s >>> 2.5 s >>> 13 s >>> 499 s >>> 5.9 s >>> 128 s >>> 1360 s >>> 36 s >> >> >> That sounds to me like either a transcription error was made to the >> puzzle at some point, or there's something wrong with your solver. The >> whole point of that example was that it was a puzzle with the minimum >> number of clues to specify a unique solution. > > I think Marko meant, that if he creates symmetrically equivalent puzzles by > rotating / mirroring the grid, he gets vastly different execution times, but > ends up with the same solution. That makes sense, but it is true for all puzzles that there are eight possible orientations (since it's impossible for a puzzle solution to be symmetric), and the wording made it sound like he was describing a property specific to the puzzle that I posted.