Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!news.mb-net.net!open-news-network.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.017 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'mrab': 0.05; 'sql.': 0.07; "subject:' ": 0.07; 'false.': 0.09; 'objects,': 0.09; 'wrong,': 0.09; 'random': 0.14; '(there': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'nan': 0.16; 'nose': 0.16; 'pinned': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'weird': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; '15,': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'though.': 0.31; 'maybe': 0.34; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'objects': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'url:org': 0.36; 'expected': 0.38; 'e.g.': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'realize': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'most': 0.60; "you've": 0.63; 'expectations': 0.74; 'cousins': 0.84; 'sometimes.': 0.84; 'url:php': 0.85; 'edwards': 0.91; 'you...': 0.96; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=cWxW6i8QS7BflZ/Aft9wqmsDh+WLLuyyAg3t3s9RCAI=; b=KzphggJXRD6YItXUQeBs8UWl+uE9TeLR5RzF9lVXIrG2zew8OvsF5YToVTvpAFlwou psMGoR22b+lmgCiFuyEB83EcocWsmM5ZqJORDMfKVA4A9Sf5/bKJfov7VZnF9bnOUInt F3UAFm9J0dVQ/IQKThEnnJP2/mU1AexrUnZ60DVUG1acKirDbUCyQVRkNnoOvk+lfLJj oaz9LnIJOiTA7fH+1sOl+I6k0mxr0QZlBwdymbSgUQD/p19MwL8HP0fL2YSCfNyR/Ede 1tQXFEe/VCu0GDlCK/bVwNVdmkN36gnezQWdsVJq7lasZWbWrNXni7XjV1tToR5h94JV q99g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.164.163 with SMTP id yr3mr1347361vdb.76.1371254165634; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 16:56:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51bb4986$0$29997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51BB52C5.60202@gmail.com> <51BB5797.4030705@mrabarnett.plus.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 09:56:05 +1000 Subject: Re: Eval of expr with 'or' and 'and' within From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1371254168 news.xs4all.nl 15886 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44692 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:48226 On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2013-06-14, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:49 AM, MRAB wrote: >>> The general rule is that an object is true-ish unless it's false-ish >>> (there are fewer false-ish objects than true-ish objects, e.g. zero vs >>> non-zero int). >> >> With a few random oddities: >> >>>>> bool(float("nan")) >> True >> >> I somehow expected NaN to be false. Maybe that's just my expectations >> that are wrong, though. > > If you work with floating point long enough you realize that most of > your expectations are wrong. Sometimes. Eventually. NaN is like NULL in SQL. It's a weird beast. Just when you think you've pinned it down, it slips out from under your taxonomic classifications and thumbs its nose at you... I think they're cousins to the platypus. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EverythingsBetterWithPlatypi ChrisA