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I do not want GUI, I just want a console application which will read a
single character
input. When you read from stdin for example, you have it to be terminated.

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> =C2=A0 1. Re: Questions about LISP and Python. (Xah Lee)
> =C2=A0 2. Re: Questions about LISP and Python. (Chris Angelico)
> =C2=A0 3. Re: 70% [* SPAM *] Re: Re: multiprocessing.Queue blocks when
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0sending =C2=A0 large object (Dennis Lee Bieber)
> =C2=A0 4. Single key press (Sergi Pasoev)
> =C2=A0 5. Re: Fwd: class print method... (Suresh Sharma)
> =C2=A0 6. Re: Single key press (88888 Dihedral)
> =C2=A0 7. Re: Single key press (88888 Dihedral)
> =C2=A0 8. Re: Scope of variable inside list comprehensions? (Rainer Grimm=
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> =C2=A0 9. Re: Questions about LISP and Python. (alex23)
> =C2=A010. Re: Questions about LISP and Python. (Matt Joiner)
>
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> ---------- Message transf=C3=A9r=C3=A9 ----------
> From:=C2=A0Xah Lee <xahlee@gmail.com>
> To:=C2=A0python-list@python.org
> Date:=C2=A0Mon, 5 Dec 2011 20:36:45 -0800 (PST)
> Subject:=C2=A0Re: Questions about LISP and Python.
> On Dec 5, 4:31=C2=A0am, Tim Bradshaw <t...@tfeb.org> wrote:
>> On 2011-12-05 11:51:11 +0000, Xah Lee said:
>>
>> > python has more readible syntax, more modern computer language
>> > concepts, and more robust libraries. These qualities in turn made it
>> > popular.
>>
>> Yet you still post here: why?
>
> i don't like python, and i prefer emacs lisp. The primary reason is
> that python is not functional, especially with python 3. The python
> community is full of fanatics with their drivels. In that respect,
> it's not unlike Common Lisp community and Scheme lisp community.
>
> see also:
>
> =E3=80=88Python Documentation Problems=E3=80=89
> http://xahlee.org/perl-python/python_doc_index.html
>
> =E3=80=88Computer Language Design: What's List Comprehension and Why is I=
t
> Harmful?=E3=80=89
> http://xahlee.org/comp/list_comprehension.html
>
> =E3=80=88Lambda in Python 3000=E3=80=89
> http://xahlee.org/perl-python/python_3000.html
>
> =E3=80=88What Languages to Hate=E3=80=89
> http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/language_to_hate.html
>
> =E3=80=88Xah on Programing Languages=E3=80=89
> http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/comp_lang.html
>
> =C2=A0Xah
>
>
>
> ---------- Message transf=C3=A9r=C3=A9 ----------
> From:=C2=A0Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
> To:=C2=A0python-list@python.org
> Date:=C2=A0Tue, 6 Dec 2011 16:10:27 +1100
> Subject:=C2=A0Re: Questions about LISP and Python.
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Xah Lee <xahlee@gmail.com> wrote:
>> i don't like python, and i prefer emacs lisp. The primary reason is
>> that python is not functional, especially with python 3. The python
>> community is full of fanatics with their drivels. In that respect,
>> it's not unlike Common Lisp community and Scheme lisp community.
>
> So you hate Python. Fine. Why post here? Why not just abandon Python
> as a dead loss and go code in Lithp?
>
> Clearly something is keeping you here. Is it that there's something
> about Python that you really like, or are you just trolling?
>
> ChrisA
>
>
>
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> From:=C2=A0Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com>
> To:=C2=A0python-list@python.org
> Date:=C2=A0Mon, 05 Dec 2011 21:15:09 -0800
> Subject:=C2=A0Re: 70% [* SPAM *] Re: Re: multiprocessing.Queue blocks whe=
n sending large object
> On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 18:49:44 +0100, DPalao <dpalao.python@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> ---------- Message transf=C3=A9r=C3=A9 ----------
> From:=C2=A0Sergi Pasoev <s.pasoev@gmail.com>
> To:=C2=A0python-list@python.org
> Date:=C2=A0Tue, 6 Dec 2011 10:19:55 +0430
> Subject:=C2=A0Single key press
> Hi.
>
> I wonder if it is realistic to get a single key press in Python
> without ncurses or
> any similar library. In single key press I mean something like j and k
> in Gnu less
> program, you press the key and and it is captured by the script without n=
eed to
> press enter afterwards
>
>
>
> ---------- Message transf=C3=A9r=C3=A9 ----------
> From:=C2=A0Suresh Sharma <ss27051980@gmail.com>
> To:=C2=A0Lie Ryan <lie.1296@gmail.com>
> Date:=C2=A0Tue, 6 Dec 2011 11:23:16 +0530
> Subject:=C2=A0Re: Fwd: class print method...
> Dave / Ryan
> Thanks i have got it and it worked after using repr statement. Thanks eve=
ryone for their valuable feedback.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Lie Ryan <lie.1296@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 12/05/2011 10:18 PM, Suresh Sharma wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Pls help its really frustrating
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Suresh Sharma
>>> Date: Monday, December 5, 2011
>>> Subject: class print method...
>>> To: "d@davea.name <mailto:d@davea.name>" <d@davea.name
>>> <mailto:d@davea.name>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave,
>>> Thanx for the quick response, i am sorry that i did not explain
>>> correctly look at the code below inspite of this i am just getting clas=
s
>>> object at memory location.I am sort i typed all this code on my android
>>> in a hurry so.indentation could.not.be.managed but this.similar code
>>> when i run all my objects created by class deck are not shown but store=
d
>>> in varioia meory locations. How can i display them.
>>>
>>
>> I think you're in the right track, however I suspect you're running the =
code in the shell instead of as a script. The shell uses __repr__() to prin=
t objects instead of __str__(), so you either need to use 'print' or you ne=
ed to call str(), note the following:
>>
>> Python 2.7.2+ (default, Oct =C2=A04 2011, 20:06:09)
>> [GCC 4.6.1] on linux2
>> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>> >>> suits =3D ['spades', 'clubs', 'diamonds', 'hearts']
>> >>> ranks =3D ['A', '2', '3', '4', '5', '6', '7', '8', '9', '10', 'J', '=
Q', 'K']
>> >>> class Card:
>> ... =C2=A0 =C2=A0 def __init__(self, rank, suit):
>> ... =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 self.suit =3D suit
>> ... =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 self.rank =3D rank
>> ... =C2=A0 =C2=A0 def __str__(self):
>> ... =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 return suits[self.suit] + ' ' + ranks[se=
lf.rank]
>> ...
>> >>> Card(2, 3) #1
>> <__main__.Card instance at 0x7f719c3a20e0>
>> >>> str(Card(2, 3)) #2 of your
>> 'hearts 3'
>> >>> print Card(2, 3) #3
>> hearts 3
>>
>> In #1, the output is the __repr__() of your Card class; you can modify t=
his output by overriding the __repr__() on your Card class.
>>
>> In #2, the output is the __repr__() of a string, the string is the retur=
n value from __str__() of your Card class. The repr of a string is the stri=
ng enclosed in quotes, which is why there is an extra pair of quotes.
>>
>> In #3, you're 'print'-ing a string, the string is the return value from =
__str__() of your Card class. There's no extra quotes, since 'print' prints=
 the string itself, not the repr of the string.
>>
>> --
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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> ---------- Message transf=C3=A9r=C3=A9 ----------
> From:=C2=A088888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com>
> To:=C2=A0comp.lang.python@googlegroups.com
> Date:=C2=A0Mon, 5 Dec 2011 22:27:48 -0800 (PST)
> Subject:=C2=A0Re: Single key press
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2011 1:49:55 PM UTC+8, Sergi Pasoev wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> I wonder if it is realistic to get a single key press in Python
>> without ncurses or
>> any similar library. In single key press I mean something like j and k
>> in Gnu less
>> program, you press the key and and it is captured by the script without =
need to
>> press enter afterwards
>
> Sounds like the =C2=A0fast key searching for a list in the DOS applicatio=
n in the
> old days.
>
> This is easy in GUI of just tens of items, but for thousands of items suc=
h
> as in a directory listing, some API is really slow.
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Message transf=C3=A9r=C3=A9 ----------
> From:=C2=A088888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com>
> To:=C2=A0python-list@python.org
> Date:=C2=A0Mon, 5 Dec 2011 22:27:48 -0800 (PST)
> Subject:=C2=A0Re: Single key press
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2011 1:49:55 PM UTC+8, Sergi Pasoev wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> I wonder if it is realistic to get a single key press in Python
>> without ncurses or
>> any similar library. In single key press I mean something like j and k
>> in Gnu less
>> program, you press the key and and it is captured by the script without =
need to
>> press enter afterwards
>
> Sounds like the =C2=A0fast key searching for a list in the DOS applicatio=
n in the
> old days.
>
> This is easy in GUI of just tens of items, but for thousands of items suc=
h
> as in a directory listing, some API is really slow.
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Message transf=C3=A9r=C3=A9 ----------
> From:=C2=A0Rainer Grimm <r.grimm@science-computing.de>
> To:=C2=A0python-list@python.org
> Date:=C2=A0Mon, 5 Dec 2011 22:42:35 -0800 (PST)
> Subject:=C2=A0Re: Scope of variable inside list comprehensions?
> Hello,
>
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 try:
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 songs =3D [Song(id) for id in song_ids]
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 except Song.DoesNotExist:
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 print "unknown song id (%d)" % id
> that's is a bad programming style. So it will be forbidden with python 3.=
 The reason is that list comprehension is a construct from the functional w=
orld. It's only syntactic sugar for the functions map and filter. So functi=
ons have to be pure functions. To say it in other words, they have to be si=
de-effect free. But the python construct from above pollutes the namespace =
with name id.
>
> Greetings from Rottenburg,
> Rainer
>
>
>
> ---------- Message transf=C3=A9r=C3=A9 ----------
> From:=C2=A0alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com>
> To:=C2=A0python-list@python.org
> Date:=C2=A0Mon, 5 Dec 2011 23:02:42 -0800 (PST)
> Subject:=C2=A0Re: Questions about LISP and Python.
> On Dec 6, 2:36=C2=A0pm, Xah Lee <xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The python community is full of fanatics with their drivels.
>
> You do know that you could just fuck right off and leave us to it,
> yes?
>
> In general, it's the person who is shrilly imposing their minority
> opinion on a disinterested audience that deserves the title 'fanatic'.
>
>
>
> ---------- Message transf=C3=A9r=C3=A9 ----------
> From:=C2=A0Matt Joiner <anacrolix@gmail.com>
> To:=C2=A0alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com>
> Date:=C2=A0Tue, 6 Dec 2011 18:54:09 +1100
> Subject:=C2=A0Re: Questions about LISP and Python.
> This guy is an even better troll than that 88888 guy. His spelling is
> equally bad. His essays make some good points, but I don't see why he
> doesn't shut his trap and move on.
>
> =E0=B2=A0_=E0=B2=A0
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:02 PM, alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 6, 2:36=C2=A0pm, Xah Lee <xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The python community is full of fanatics with their drivels.
>>
>> You do know that you could just fuck right off and leave us to it,
>> yes?
>>
>> In general, it's the person who is shrilly imposing their minority
>> opinion on a disinterested audience that deserves the title 'fanatic'.
>> --
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