Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'python,': 0.02; '16,': 0.03; 'anyway.': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'definitions': 0.07; 'agree,': 0.09; 'php,': 0.09; 'structure,': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; "wouldn't": 0.14; 'blocks': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'simulate': 0.16; 'top-level': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'case.': 0.24; 'logical': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'correct': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'matching': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'indentation': 0.31; 'class': 0.32; 'programmers': 0.33; 'problem': 0.35; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'in.': 0.36; 'reflect': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; 'doing': 0.36; 'subject:New': 0.37; 'implement': 0.38; 'initially': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'structure': 0.39; 'most': 0.60; 'simply': 0.61; 'times': 0.62; 'series': 0.66; 'physical': 0.72; '2015': 0.84; 'forced': 0.84; "it'd": 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; 'few.': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=NKYM41lJIoSsZzLxbMHbIUi8gOF6D0OI43HyXLpQ/lo=; b=U8ZXGHB3l4dyrI/HjqcvHhvhfQ909EOK2mfJm5O4DXDDzNlpvVva/0HnesBEi9iwit 3de8fThaNAbmbXSVxqEqFoegLO/YbqAXBHlozOZhpJIJHTWAUoeKfyvx1ME/HZSIfLF9 q/aWTiMJfGzAZUa7j1VDZdEGQvHoCBYdgbU2X/ww2XordS47Ta62EEQpy8D1gXdi8QNe NKVaWaJKLEmO60cDyBZmhXRdRaIsicWIcseavUbkzD7sgZOyNckZMbtCR+Jf5gN/aNXS Q5Hno9uULtBsWFcn6JBgpxmGswWfNiF9kCTn1RYYAjOC/xtZX+yCIP8v8U6UC5+qUymU ZnRg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.160.212 with SMTP id j203mr41894726ioe.43.1429176844787; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 02:34:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <552F772B.8030201@rece.vub.ac.be> References: <9fc57fc9-0399-4ff3-882a-d041f02827d8@googlegroups.com> <552F772B.8030201@rece.vub.ac.be> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 19:34:04 +1000 Subject: Re: New to Python - block grouping (spaces) From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1429176853 news.xs4all.nl 2970 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42176 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:89013 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote: > On 04/16/2015 09:46 AM, alister wrote: > >> what I find strange is that although these programmers initially disliked >> forced indentation they were voluntarily indenting there existing code >> anyway. Take a look at your existing code base & see if this would indeed >> be the case. > > The problem is that the logical structure one has in one's head is not always > the same as the physical structure one has to implement in. I prefer the > indentation of my program to reflect the former instead of the latter. That > is impossible in python. I agree, but as it turns out, the number of times when this actually makes a difference are diminishingly few. The most warpedly correct indentation I've ever done was in PHP, where I used a triply-nested structure of switch/case blocks to simulate a logical structure that in Python would simply be a series of top-level functions - or *maybe* a series of class definitions with methods in them. So if I were doing the same logical structure in Python, I wouldn't mind the indentation matching the physical structure, because it'd be sufficiently close. ChrisA