Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'value,': 0.04; 'correct.': 0.07; 'expressions': 0.07; "subject:' ": 0.07; 'clean.': 0.09; 'false,': 0.09; 'generators': 0.09; '10:49': 0.16; 'boolean': 0.16; 'called,': 0.16; 'empty,': 0.16; 'from:addr:torriem': 0.16; 'from:name:michael torrie': 0.16; 'iterators': 0.16; 'ought': 0.16; 'timestamp': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'otherwise,': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; "aren't": 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'restricted': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'values.': 0.31; 'implemented': 0.33; 'subject:with': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'representing': 0.36; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.38; 'thank': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'you.': 0.62 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at torriefamily.org Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:28:37 -0600 From: Michael Torrie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.12) Gecko/20130105 Thunderbird/10.0.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Eval of expr with 'or' and 'and' within References: <51bb4986$0$29997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: <51bb4986$0$29997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1371230924 news.xs4all.nl 15982 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35744 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:48193 On 06/14/2013 10:49 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Correct. In Python, all boolean expressions are duck-typed: they aren't > restricted to True and False, but to any "true-ish" and "false-ish" > value, or as the Javascript people call them, truthy and falsey values. > > There are a couple of anomalies -- the timestamp representing midnight is > falsey, because it is implemented as a zero number of seconds; also > exhausted iterators and generators ought to be considered falsey, since > they are empty, but because they don't know they are empty until called, > they are actually treated as truthy. But otherwise, the model is very > clean. Good explanation! Definitely enlightened me. Thank you.