Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'exception': 0.03; 'python': 0.09; 'behave': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'terry': 0.09; 'subject:python': 0.11; '3.2.': 0.16; '3.3.': 0.16; 'comparison.': 0.16; 'devs': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:3.3': 0.16; 'subject:String': 0.16; 'later': 0.16; 'string': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'bytes': 0.17; 'unicode': 0.17; 'jan': 0.18; '>>>': 0.18; '3.2': 0.22; 'please?': 0.22; 'nearly': 0.23; 'machine': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; '2.6': 0.27; 'functions.': 0.27; 'operations,': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints- To:1': 0.28; 'chris': 0.28; 'run': 0.28; 'selecting': 0.29; 'expect': 0.31; 'code': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.32; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.33; 'faster': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'space': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'here:': 0.62; 'show': 0.63; 'confirm': 0.64; 'covers': 0.65; 'today': 0.67; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'url:cpython': 0.84; 'notable': 0.91; 'rusi': 0.91; 'overall,': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: String performance regression from python 3.2 to 3.3 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:48:16 -0400 References: <23a42297-9262-4ace-87ad-138999b1ddd6@z3g2000vbg.googlegroups.com> <51411F38.1040901@mrabarnett.plus.com> <51414c75$0$29965$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <7cd57e96-663b-4a3b-a2c8-2fdbf730fa9b@hd10g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-75-251-66.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1363308513 news.xs4all.nl 6906 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53135 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:41251 On 3/14/2013 7:14 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 3/14/2013 6:48 AM, rusi wrote: >> On Mar 14, 11:47 am, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >>> I expect that Python 3.2 will behave comparably to the 2.6 stats, but >>> I don't have 3.2s handy - can someone confirm please? >> >> I have 3.2 but not 3.3. Can run it later today if no one does. >> But better if someone with both on the same machine do the comparison. > > The python devs use the microbenchmarks in > Tools/stringbench/stringbench.py, which covers all string operations, as > the basis for improving particular string functions. Overall, Unicode is > nearly as fast as bytes and 3.3 as fast as 3.2. Find/replace is the > notable exception in stringbench, so it is an anomaly. Other things are > faster in 3.3. In selecting the new implementation, the devs also > considered space and speed gains that do not show up in microbenchmarks. Links to the readme and code for stringbench can be found here: http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/c25bc2587c48/Tools/stringbench -- Terry Jan Reedy