Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!cs.uu.nl!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.011 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'tutorial': 0.03; 'received:134': 0.05; 'binary': 0.07; 'claimed': 0.09; 'converted': 0.09; 'explanation': 0.09; 'latter': 0.09; 'strings.': 0.09; 'contribute': 0.11; 'mostly': 0.14; 'acted': 0.16; 'displayed.': 0.16; 'nick': 0.16; 'notation': 0.16; 'numeral': 0.16; 'responses.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'seems': 0.21; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'string,': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'explained': 0.31; 'sea': 0.31; 'class': 0.32; 'there.': 0.32; 'proceed': 0.33; '"the': 0.34; 'sense': 0.34; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'knowledge': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'computing': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'belong': 0.36; 'wrong': 0.37; 'project': 0.37; 'clear': 0.37; 'starting': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'expected': 0.38; 'feed': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'previous': 0.38; 'ability': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'course.': 0.60; 'experts': 0.60; 'hope': 0.61; 'numbers': 0.61; 'you.': 0.62; 'more': 0.64; 'between': 0.67; 'acts': 0.74; 'repeat': 0.74; 'gap': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; 'subject:Don': 0.91 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqEEAA8Zu1GGuA9G/2dsb2JhbABahwG4WYMCgRuDFwEBBAEjDwE4DQYLCQIYAgIFFgsCAgkDAgECAUUTCAKIBAaNVJs9iUCIB4EmjikWgjaBFAOXQYYMizaDEQ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 15:25:27 +0200 From: Antoon Pardon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.12) Gecko/20130116 Icedove/10.0.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Don't feed the troll... References: <6dfa3707-80f4-407a-a109-66dbb0130513@googlegroups.com> <51b83e5a$0$29998$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51b90ead$0$29997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51b9708b$0$29872$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1371216328 news.xs4all.nl 15990 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38400 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:48144 Op 14-06-13 14:36, Nick the Gr33k schreef: > On 14/6/2013 2:09 μμ, Antoon Pardon wrote: >> Op 14-06-13 11:32, Nick the Gr33k schreef: >>> I'mm not trolling man, i just have hard time understanding why numbers >>> acts as strings. >> They don't. No body claimed numbers acted like strings. What was explained, >> was that when numbers are displayed, they are converted into a notational >> string, which is then displayed. This to clear you of your confusion between >> numerals and numbers which you displayed by writing something like "the >> binary representation as a number" > Hold on. > number = an abstract sense > numeral = ? > notation = ? > represenation = ? I already explained these in previous responses. I am not going to repeat myself. IMO you are out of place here. You belong in a tutor class about basical computing concepts. There you can aquire the knowledge that is more or less expected of those who want to contribute here. I don't mind the occasional gap in knowledge but with you it seems more there is an occasional grain of knowledge in a sea of ignorance. To remedy the former a single explanation is mostly sufficient. To remedy the latter you need a tutorial course. Now there is nothing wrong in being ignorant. The question is how do you proceed from there. The answer is not by starting a project that is far above your ability and pestering the experts in the hope they will spoon feed you.