Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.039 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'scripts': 0.03; 'hosts': 0.07; 'subject:help': 0.08; 'facts': 0.09; 'fixed,': 0.09; 'latter': 0.09; 'nntp': 0.09; 'repeated': 0.09; 'term,': 0.09; '"making': 0.16; 'did).': 0.16; 'repetitions': 0.16; 'bit': 0.19; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'helpful': 0.24; '---': 0.24; 'least': 0.26; 'asking': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'evaluation': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'himself': 0.36; 'changing': 0.37; 'wrong': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'explain': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'is.': 0.60; 'solve': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'simply': 0.61; 'name': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'talking': 0.65; 'due': 0.66; 'nobody': 0.68; 'gotten': 0.74; 'posters,': 0.84; 'subject:Don': 0.91; 'wanting': 0.93; 'serious': 0.97 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=modelnine.org; s=modelnine1012; t=1371213118; bh=1osRPoBZb5qVR3/cfLx9nPHgkIp/BL6u/jAJJ8i0Rok=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=V++wHwTPr8RNvcZcJJTAxswEm2Z/W1h3u89/ksBDpl4BiPZmdnO7FDmA4ymqYp3wz zpqODpMG2DdcpE0Njnv4F0yr5xJp5exFvMHigSGRmX0QpbRidf5LSi5L/FTSNaT8gC HV4af6trt5zGumBv7X8NAKWzKLcKnYfRMeeRP5Gg= Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 14:31:53 +0200 From: Heiko Wundram User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/22.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Don't feed the help-vampire References: <6dfa3707-80f4-407a-a109-66dbb0130513@googlegroups.com> <51b83e5a$0$29998$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51b90ead$0$29997$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51b9708b$0$29872$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51BADD2F.6010006@modelnine.org> <8c0ca270-1ccc-44c7-a85a-05ebd1ec9b52@v10g2000pbv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1371213120 news.xs4all.nl 15983 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37843 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:48128 Am 14.06.2013 14:09, schrieb rusi: > Since identifying a disease by the right name is key to finding a > cure: > Nikos is not trolling or spamming; he is help-vampiring. Just to explain the trolling allegation: I'm not talking about him wanting to get his scripts fixed, that's help-vampiring most certainly, and an extreme form of that (thanks btw. for pointing me to that term, whoever did). I was talking about his repeated attempts at "making conversation" by asking questions about encoding, short-circuit evaluation and such which seem like they are relevant for him to solve his problem, but due to his persistence of understanding things in a wrong way/not understanding them at all/repeating the same misunderstandings time after time have drifted off into endless repetitions of the same facts by helpful posters, and have gotten a lot of people seriously annoyed (also, due to other facts such as him changing his NNTP hosts and/or From-addresses which breaks kill-filing). Now, if that latter behaviour isn't trolling, I don't know what is. Simply nobody who takes what he does at least a little bit serious is _as_ thick as he makes himself seem. -- --- Heiko.