Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.014 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; 'pop': 0.05; 'abuse': 0.07; 'reject': 0.07; 'alter': 0.09; 'correspond': 0.09; 'inserted': 0.09; 'mail:': 0.09; 'pgp': 0.09; 'subject:script': 0.09; 'subject:using': 0.09; 'will,': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; "wouldn't": 0.14; '-----begin': 0.16; '12]': 0.16; 'contact.': 0.16; 'hash:': 0.16; 'headers.': 0.16; 'hostname': 0.16; 'protecting': 0.16; 'received:mac.com': 0.16; 'sha1': 0.16; 'subject:send': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'message-----': 0.19; 'received:10.0.1': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'example': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**1': 0.23; 'headers': 0.24; 'connected': 0.24; 'header': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'primary': 0.26; 'signed': 0.27; 'thus': 0.29; 'url:mailman': 0.30; '>>>>': 0.31; 'initiated': 0.31; 'sep': 0.31; 'servers.': 0.31; 'spam,': 0.31; 'with,': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'computer.': 0.33; 'moment': 0.34; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'no,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'google': 0.35; 'add': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'reflect': 0.36; 'smtp': 0.36; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'received:10.0': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'so,': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'server': 0.38; 'confirmed': 0.38; 'received:17': 0.38; 'stopped': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'track': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'realize': 0.39; 'delete': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; "google's": 0.60; 'removing': 0.60; 'identify': 0.61; 'deliver': 0.61; 'information,': 0.61; 'address': 0.63; 'name': 0.63; 'real': 0.63; 'decided': 0.64; 'our': 0.64; 'spam.': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'different': 0.65; 'forward': 0.65; 'account': 0.65; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'dont': 0.67; 'reverse': 0.68; 'fact,': 0.69; 'receive': 0.70; '8bit%:92': 0.71; 'header:In-reply-to:1': 0.84; 'is)': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; 'subject:via': 0.84; 'mails': 0.89; '2013,': 0.91; 'refuse': 0.93 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-16_05:2013-09-16,2013-09-16,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1308280000 definitions=main-1309160086 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Subject: Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA From: William Ray Wing In-reply-to: Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:53:09 -0400 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable References: <305a2044-a13e-47f8-9cc1-9e3482424616@googlegroups.com> <52366466$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5236B356.7030308@rece.vub.ac.be> <5236BD75.5080904@rece.vub.ac.be> <5236C4B7.3070601@rece.vub.ac.be> To: Ferrous Cranus X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: python-list@python.org, William Ray Wing X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 65 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1379354007 news.xs4all.nl 16010 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:34034 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:54238 On Sep 16, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Ferrous Cranus = wrote: > =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 16/9/2013 3:56 =CE=BC=CE=BC, =CE=BF/=CE=B7 = Antoon Pardon =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: >> Op 16-09-13 14:11, Ferrous Cranus schreef: >>> =CE=A3=CF=84=CE=B9=CF=82 16/9/2013 2:44 =CE=BC=CE=BC, =CE=BF/=CE=B7 = Heiko Wundram =CE=AD=CE=B3=CF=81=CE=B1=CF=88=CE=B5: >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>>=20 >>>> Am 16.09.2013 13:37, schrieb Ferrous Cranus: >>>>> What i want now is to be able to alter the hostname of my server = so >>>>> the mails wont indicate that they derive from superhost.gr as they >>>>> aare now sen in the mail headers. >>>>=20 >>>> There is no way to do that, as the Received:-header which you = complain >>>> about is inserted by Google mail servers. >>>=20 >>> true. >>> Even if now i have stopped using Google's SMTP Server as a means for >>> sending out mails and i have decided to use my local MTA instead, at = the >>> very moment Google's POP servers receive the mail they still add a >>> RECEIVE header revealing the hostname of the server that initiated = the >>> contact. Correct? >>>=20 >>> But even so, if we alter for example the hostname of our server to a >>> different name then wouldn't Google use that to identify the server = thus >>> protecting the real identity(hostname that is) of the server that >>> initiated the connection? >>=20 >> No, google will probably find out that the name your server = identifies >> with, will not correspond with the IP address it is connected to and >> will write a receive line that will reflect that fact, using reverse >> DNS to report the real hostname of your computer. >>=20 > =CE=A4his si the headers i would like to delete because i dont want = them to be used when sending mail: >=20 > X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it = with any abuse report > X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - my.superhost.gr > X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - superhost.gr > X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [500 501] / [47 12] > X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - mail.org > X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: my.superhost.gr: authenticated_id: = nikos/only user confirmed/virtual account not confirmed >=20 > Can these be remoevd when i send mail? > --=20 > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list You realize that removing those headers will, in all likelihood, make = Google reject your mail and refuse to either forward or deliver it. = They have been added to reduce spam, and the more you attempt to = obfuscate your header information, the more you make your mail look = exactly like spam. -Bill=