Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.glorb.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.03; 'skip:` 10': 0.05; 'brackets': 0.09; 'marking': 0.09; 'subject:Posting': 0.09; 'aug': 0.13; '_do_': 0.16; 'dangling': 0.16; 'ellipsis': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'help?': 0.16; 'statement.': 0.16; 'subject:under': 0.16; 'wed,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'certainly': 0.17; 'subject:] ': 0.19; 'putting': 0.20; 'written': 0.20; 'received:209.85.214.174': 0.21; '15,': 0.23; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'url:wiki': 0.26; 'convention': 0.27; 'instead.': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.28; 'chris': 0.28; 'author,': 0.29; 'quoting': 0.29; 'url:wikipedia': 0.29; 'writes:': 0.29; "skip:' 10": 0.30; 'usually': 0.30; 'could': 0.32; 'material': 0.33; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'done': 0.34; 'adds': 0.35; 'ben': 0.35; 'text.': 0.35; 'especially': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'url:org': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'mean': 0.38; 'url:en': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:209.85.214': 0.39; 'called': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'thomas': 0.62; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'square': 0.75; 'omission': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ztnrWmJqOmEE/K1iIRH3r6O4zzbdixZFc2gudAgk7BQ=; b=j/L7OlyS2UMaGrIHFtrSEQxNC31T05YMMqLhgvhkcrt9dEoh7GAB9XdzT7BxzxMDUm m/qu4kL3IktzUK5LP5HNWEWSZdL75JnwbYj6ESWPYiGLTvIZ19hZP+0EQbzrH4kGrZ32 Wm+zN9x72nkjhmRQjEHXlVPlSt01fo1H3VjMffZaj3lJnFOjBYfO2YvmCRKSm2WR4NLO zAGBEa9K0eF7QbDlozTy5nVKKZ5qGOP4018l9eioqVX9lSjJ+F10PPLB4tsMJG/lctbq 4NrOFFNfT+2+EHtHCIRHLOl4YlaJ7VXFU8toCU1GOi7hY/v+VxqEeB5KSQESbeA2QQV2 ogWQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87txw4erjo.fsf@benfinney.id.au> References: <5f8605fd-f2b6-4673-9c98-72c111cfd050@googlegroups.com> <1dfacec7-f101-4206-9f97-745739c62c91@y1g2000vbx.googlegroups.com> <5029bf3b$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1726797.uF9SroCjta@PointedEars.de> <12344088.tLP8bKVGp5@PointedEars.de> <87txw4erjo.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:10:40 +1000 Subject: Re: [OT] Posting under ones full name From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1345003843 news.xs4all.nl 6978 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57396 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:27078 On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Ben Finney wr= ote: > Chris Angelico writes: > >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn >> wrote: >> > Please use `[...]' or `[=85]' to indicate omission instead. I could >> > have written `politeness...' myself. >> >> Incidentally, how _do_ the square brackets help? > > They are a long-standing convention for marking an editorial addition or > clarification. > > Square brackets =96 also called simply brackets (US) =96 are mainly u= sed > to enclose explanatory or missing material usually added by someone > other than the original author, especially in quoted text. > > Right, as is often done with dangling pronouns. "[Square brackets] are a long-standing convention..." would be a valid way of quoting your above statement. What I mean is that putting brackets around the ellipsis adds nothing, and certainly doesn't eliminate ambiguity; the only advantage is that [...] cannot be confused for a written-in pause. ChrisA