Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.077 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.85; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:postings': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; "(it's": 0.16; 'non-printing': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'mon,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; '+0000': 0.20; 'least': 0.25; 'appear': 0.26; 'common': 0.26; 'plain': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'chris': 0.28; 'spaces': 0.29; 'thinks': 0.29; 'character': 0.29; 'figure': 0.30; 'file': 0.32; 'skip:- 10': 0.32; 'url:home': 0.33; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.33; "can't": 0.34; 'text': 0.34; 'nov': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'characters': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'operating': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'listing': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'files': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'nothing': 0.38; 'system.': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'where': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'most': 0.61; 'worth': 0.63; 'skip:n 10': 0.63; 'bel': 0.84; 'keystrokes': 0.84; 'seldom': 0.84; 'dennis': 0.91; 'edwards': 0.91; 'hassle': 0.91; 'received:108': 0.91; 'have.': 0.95 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: Obnoxious postings from Google Groups Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 14:47:47 -0500 Organization: > Bestiaria Support Staff < References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-108-79-221-155.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1352144862 news.xs4all.nl 6962 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54178 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:32785 On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 18:20:38 +0000 (UTC), Grant Edwards declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: > On 2012-11-05, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:39:35 +1100, Chris Angelico > > declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: > > > >> > >> It's nothing to do with operating system. File names are names, and > >> spaces in them are seldom worth the hassle unless you manipulate those > >> files solely using a GUI. > >> > > At least spaces are visible. > > > > CP/V would accept non-printable characters in file names... Things > > like BEL were valid -- but figure out where in the name the BEL > > character was when listing the directory contents > > Don't most OSes allow non-printing characters in filenames? VMS and > Unix always have. AFAIK, there are only two characters that can't > appear in a Unix filename: '\x00' and '/'. But can you /enter/ them with common keystrokes on a plain text terminal (it's been 35 years, so I don't recall the exact key used for the BEL on CP/V -- my mind thinks was used)... No cut&paste from "character map", no -3digitsequence... -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/