Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder7.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.009 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'english.': 0.04; 'extent': 0.07; 'english,': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'sentence': 0.09; 'subset': 0.09; 'subject:Help': 0.11; 'language.': 0.14; 'complaining': 0.16; 'kern': 0.16; 'likewise': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:Got': 0.16; 'subject:Plz': 0.16; 'subject:make': 0.16; 'underlying': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'australian': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'interpret': 0.24; 'define': 0.26; 'suggested': 0.26; 'second': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; '[1]': 0.29; 'generally': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'robert': 0.30; 'strongly': 0.30; 'especially': 0.30; 'languages': 0.32; 'themselves': 0.32; 'whom': 0.33; 'sense': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'nov': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'indian': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'subject: !': 0.61; 'matter': 0.61; 'such': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'details': 0.65; 'american': 0.66; 'world': 0.66; 'between': 0.67; 'believe': 0.68; 'limit': 0.70; 'subject:your': 0.76; 'eco': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; 'premise': 0.84; 'subject: ! ': 0.84; 'terrible': 0.84; 'british': 0.87; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Robert Kern Subject: Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP ! Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 12:51:06 +0000 References: <5290105a$0$29993$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5293AAC1.4010902@rece.vub.ac.be> <5294D2DF.1090901@rece.vub.ac.be> <5295AA5C.9040400@rece.vub.ac.be> <5295ADF1.70405@rece.vub.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.1.240.226 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 In-Reply-To: <5295ADF1.70405@rece.vub.ac.be> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1385556682 news.xs4all.nl 16004 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54638 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:60600 On 2013-11-27 08:31, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Op 27-11-13 09:19, Chris Angelico schreef: >> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Antoon Pardon >> wrote: >>> However that second sentence doesn't make much sense to me. Modern >>> languages contain a subset that is called the standard language. This >>> is the subset that is generally taught. Especially to those for whom >>> the language is foreign. So when you define a specific language to >>> use on an international forum, it is strongly suggested that people >>> limit themselves to the standard subset and don't use dialects since >>> "dialect" AFAIU means it is outside this standard. >> >> Do you mean standard British English, standard American English, >> standard Australian English, or some other? > > Does that significantly matter or are you just looking for details > you can use to disagree? As far as I understand the overlap between > standard British English and standard American English is so large > that it doesn't really matter for those who had to learn the language. > Likewise for the overlap with standard Australian English. Since the original usage that you are complaining about is "standard" Indian English[1], yes, it does significantly matter. [1] To the extent that there is such a thing as a "standard" form of any language. Which there isn't, but I will grant you your premise for the time being. -- Robert Kern "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." -- Umberto Eco