Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.021 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'english.': 0.04; 'english,': 0.09; 'sentence': 0.09; 'subset': 0.09; 'used)': 0.09; 'subject:Help': 0.11; 'language.': 0.14; '"standard': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'likewise': 0.16; 'subject:Got': 0.16; 'subject:Plz': 0.16; 'subject:make': 0.16; 'variants': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'australian': 0.19; '(the': 0.22; '>>>': 0.22; 'large,': 0.24; 'define': 0.26; 'suggested': 0.26; 'second': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'chris': 0.29; 'generally': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'strongly': 0.30; 'especially': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'languages': 0.32; 'themselves': 0.32; 'whom': 0.33; 'sense': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'common': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'depends': 0.38; 'nov': 0.38; 'solving': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'called': 0.40; 'subject: !': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'matter': 0.61; "you've": 0.63; 'details': 0.65; 'american': 0.66; 'between': 0.67; 'limit': 0.70; 'subject:your': 0.76; 'pardon': 0.84; 'subject: ! ': 0.84; 'british': 0.87; 'for).': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=2Z7E4BJTjCU3Sk6iOSfRe6ugmKeEa05ezkljbKaiqf4=; b=CHCS/l4Gf0QsFJMkTDF13ICRAwY6t6x6h5BjWBL05mz3jGJfw5ozFK883BJTcsgPVc nmZ8754s+YcC7xy7WeLv9tgG8j5X3dA/2oYMel/kJS5LrmoVnJqIHwysPDp+pL2CFkk2 R39Vmz/NORW1gKUfdKlimICMS5GnRMCXwp3Zt4lLrIdW+tOlbbChLwDdyyhDX+l67FsS o6F3+nPi58Ix+X6v6bKZxOExbR/qdCyxjtGtQaKMen3XROHpCljlUwHfq11DVT7Rq8DK 8ldxOH/8Lme2Fh5iQBihb6wLLDvN3HK+rMLoqf9XnxmdB+l2iJtwlXqIlc0VQwy0iZe9 Dikg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.32.231 with SMTP id m7mr3907358pbi.22.1385541408792; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 00:36:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5295ADF1.70405@rece.vub.ac.be> References: <5290105a$0$29993$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5293AAC1.4010902@rece.vub.ac.be> <5294D2DF.1090901@rece.vub.ac.be> <5295AA5C.9040400@rece.vub.ac.be> <5295ADF1.70405@rece.vub.ac.be> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 19:36:48 +1100 Subject: Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP ! From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1385541417 news.xs4all.nl 15868 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49189 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:60578 On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Op 27-11-13 09:19, Chris Angelico schreef: >> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Antoon Pardon >> wrote: >>> However that second sentence doesn't make much sense to me. Modern >>> languages contain a subset that is called the standard language. This >>> is the subset that is generally taught. Especially to those for whom >>> the language is foreign. So when you define a specific language to >>> use on an international forum, it is strongly suggested that people >>> limit themselves to the standard subset and don't use dialects since >>> "dialect" AFAIU means it is outside this standard. >> >> Do you mean standard British English, standard American English, >> standard Australian English, or some other? > > Does that significantly matter or are you just looking for details > you can use to disagree? As far as I understand the overlap between > standard British English and standard American English is so large > that it doesn't really matter for those who had to learn the language. > Likewise for the overlap with standard Australian English. It matters hugely when your point depends on their being a single "standard English". The overlap may be large, but all you've done is either change the terms without solving the problem (because there are still multiple language variants being used) or create a new language (the common subset of English across all usages, which is an impossible target to aim for). ChrisA