Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!newsfeed.eweka.nl!eweka.nl!feeder3.eweka.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.017 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.01; 'thread,': 0.04; 'python': 0.08; 'reply-to:addr:comp.lang.python': 0.09; 'to:addr:comp.lang.python': 0.09; 'am,': 0.12; 'gonna': 0.16; 'subject:independent': 0.16; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.20; 'pointed': 0.21; 'dec': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'function': 0.27; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.29; 'comments.': 0.30; 'hash': 0.30; 'oop': 0.30; 'sun,': 0.30; 'subject:?': 0.31; 'thanks': 0.31; 'implementing': 0.32; 'pure': 0.32; 'list': 0.32; 'objects': 0.32; 'implement': 0.32; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.33; 'it.': 0.34; 'from:addr:googlemail.com': 0.34; 'all.': 0.34; 'thread': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'monday,': 0.38; 'several': 0.38; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'ways': 0.39; 'talk': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.40; '2011': 0.61; 'your': 0.61; 'power': 0.63; 'relevant': 0.70; 'header:Reply-To:1': 0.71; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.72; 'reply-to:addr:googlegroups.com': 0.74; 'programming?': 0.84; 'slow.': 0.84 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 10:06:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=1.168.129.142; posting-account=5JdMBQoAAABHnS4mjpqEzxnmWtgiiVNw References: <30715729.411.1322753732534.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pret21> <4ED7A2CE.6070306@davea.name> <6366868.86.1322800180523.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pret21> <3MKCq.194015$th7.47228@newsfe07.ams2> <26969335.380.1323013143216.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prnu18> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Google-Web-Client: true MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: order independent hash? From: 88888 Dihedral To: comp.lang.python@googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: comp.lang.python@googlegroups.com List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1323021985 news.xs4all.nl 6985 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37644 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:16622 A hash that can hash objects is not a trivial hash function On Monday, December 5, 2011 1:41:14 AM UTC+8, Ian wrote: > On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 8:39 AM, 88888 Dihedral > wrote: > > Thanks for your comments. Are we gonna talk about the way to implement a hash > > table or the use of a hash table in programming? > > Implementing a hash table is not very relevant on a list about Python, > which already has them built into the language; and any pure Python > implementation would be uselessly slow. > > If you want to talk about ways to use dicts, please start a different > thread for it. As has been pointed out several times now, it is > off-topic for this thread, which is about hash *functions*. A hash that can hash objects is not a hash function at all. Are you miss-leading the power of true OOP ?