Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'syntax': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'args': 0.07; 'subject:both': 0.07; 'suppose': 0.07; 'string': 0.09; 'arguments': 0.09; 'formatting': 0.09; 'parameter': 0.09; 'subject:()': 0.09; 'subject:string': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; "(i'm": 0.16; 'dict': 0.16; 'dictionary.': 0.16; 'dog': 0.16; 'example?': 0.16; 'format?': 0.16; 'from:addr:torriem': 0.16; 'from:name:michael torrie': 0.16; 'positional': 0.16; 'subject:Formatting': 0.16; 'subject:String': 0.16; 'syntaxerror:': 0.16; 'unpack': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'trying': 0.19; 'normally': 0.19; "python's": 0.19; 'work,': 0.20; 'command': 0.22; 'separate': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'error': 0.23; 'case.': 0.24; 'skip:{ 20': 0.24; 'together.': 0.24; 'looks': 0.24; 'this:': 0.26; 'pass': 0.26; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'tried': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'keys': 0.31; 'quotes': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; 'style': 0.33; "can't": 0.35; 'editor': 0.35; 'etc.)': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'curious': 0.36; 'keyword': 0.36; 'hi,': 0.36; 'example,': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'list': 0.37; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.38; 'work?': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'new': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; "you'll": 0.62; 'needing': 0.65; 'within': 0.65; 'between': 0.67; 'invalid': 0.68; 'avoids': 0.84; 'dict,': 0.84; 'victor': 0.84 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at torriefamily.org Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:21:15 -0700 From: Michael Torrie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.12) Gecko/20130105 Thunderbird/10.0.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Python String Formatting - passing both a dict and string to .format() References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 63 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1385511711 news.xs4all.nl 15881 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46013 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:60558 On 11/26/2013 05:01 PM, Victor Hooi wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to use Python's new style string formatting with a dict > and string together. > > For example, I have the following dict and string variable: > > my_dict = { 'cat': 'ernie', 'dog': 'spot' } foo = 'lorem ipsum' > > If I want to just use the dict, it all works fine: > > '{cat} and {dog}'.format(**my_dict) 'ernie and spot' > > (I'm also curious how the above ** works in this case). > > However, if I try to combine them: > > '{cat} and {dog}, {}'.format(**my_dict, foo) ... SyntaxError: invalid > syntax This is a syntax error because of the way that the ** unpacks the dictionary. For this not to be a syntax error, foo has to be before my_dict. This is because in parameter passing, keyword args are always passed last. In general I don't think you want to unpack the dictionary in this case. > I also tried with: > > '{0['cat']} {1} {0['dog']}'.format(my_dict, foo) ... SyntaxError: > invalid syntax This is a syntax error because the cat and dog are not valid python keywords. A string is anything between two delimiters. So your command looks to python like this: '{0[' cat ']} {1} {0[' dog ']}'.format(my_dict, foo) If you have a proper syntax-highlighting editor you'll see right away that cat and dog are not within the string delimiters. This would work, however: "{0['cat']} {1} {0['dog']}".format(my_dict, foo) > However, I found that if I take out the single quotes around the keys > it then works: > > '{0[cat]} {1} {0[dog]}'.format(my_dict, foo) "ernie lorem ipsum > spot" > > I'm curious - why does this work? Why don't the dictionary keys need > quotes around them, like when you normally access a dict's elements? I suppose it's because the string formatter simply doesn't require it. > Also, is this the best practice to pass both a dict and string to > .format()? Or is there another way that avoids needing to use > positional indices? ({0}, {1} etc.) Can't you just list them as separate arguments to format? Like you did in your working example?