Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'accepts': 0.09; 'logic': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'terry': 0.09; '7:45': 0.16; 'bugs.': 0.16; "guido's": 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'exists': 0.17; 'jan': 0.18; 'operations.': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'wonder': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints- To:1': 0.28; 'implement': 0.32; 'subject:lists': 0.32; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.33; 'clear': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'be.': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'why': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'list,': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'believe': 0.69; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'angel': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: surprising += for lists Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 12:57:11 -0500 References: <50966379.3070801@davea.name> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-75-251-66.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 In-Reply-To: <50966379.3070801@davea.name> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1352051847 news.xs4all.nl 6983 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54201 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:32738 On 11/4/2012 7:45 AM, Dave Angel wrote: > What I wonder about is why list's __add__ is so fussy. Guido's reason is that it is not clear what the types of [1,2] + (3,4), (1,2) + [3,4], [] + range(4), range(2) + [3,4], etcetera should be. Such mixtures may be bugs. Seq.__add__ exists to implement '+'. [].extend() will clearly be a list, and accepts any iterable. I believe the same logic is used for set operations. -- Terry Jan Reedy