Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'float': 0.05; 'that?': 0.05; 'encouraging': 0.07; 'api': 0.09; 'subject:How': 0.09; 'python': 0.09; 'subject:create': 0.09; 'to:addr:comp.lang.python': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'subject:python': 0.11; '2.7': 0.13; 'library': 0.15; '100,': 0.16; '10x': 0.16; 'arrays.': 0.16; 'benjamin': 0.16; 'cc:name:python list': 0.16; 'numpy': 0.16; 'subject:array': 0.16; 'subject:random': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'fix': 0.17; 'appears': 0.18; 'app': 0.19; 'default,': 0.22; 'stick': 0.22; 'work,': 0.22; 'work.': 0.23; 'random': 0.24; 'idea': 0.24; 'cc:2**1': 0.24; 'specifically': 0.24; 'tried': 0.25; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'creating': 0.26; 'values': 0.26; 'separate': 0.27; 'mind.': 0.27; 'module.': 0.27; 'arrays': 0.29; 'array': 0.29; 'probably': 0.29; 'this.': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'install': 0.29; "skip:' 10": 0.30; 'basic': 0.30; 'generally': 0.32; "skip:' 20": 0.32; 'suggestion': 0.32; 'could': 0.32; 'knowledge': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'fail': 0.35; 'faster': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; '12,': 0.36; 'test': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'does': 0.37; 'uses': 0.37; 'why': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'easier': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'think': 0.40; 'chance': 0.61; 'door': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'show': 0.63; '10000': 0.65; 'tasks.': 0.65; 'benefit': 0.70; 'obtained': 0.71; 'yourself': 0.77; '2013': 0.84; 'oscar': 0.84; 'maarten': 0.91; 'ranging': 0.91; 'beneficial': 0.93 X-Received: by 10.50.186.133 with SMTP id fk5mr2263674igc.0.1363152951844; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 22:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 22:35:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=75.14.221.102; posting-account=aw7wEQoAAACnaP8vftI9MyiC9NfXNJyr References: <0aa38f5a-0e5e-43cd-b6ba-69af6f37e94e@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Google-Web-Client: true X-Google-IP: 75.14.221.102 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: How can i create a random array of floats from 0 to 5 in python From: llanitedave To: comp.lang.python@googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: llanitedave , Python List X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Message-ID: Lines: 85 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1363153648 news.xs4all.nl 6885 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43280 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:41162 On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 2:59:29 PM UTC-7, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > On 12 March 2013 20:21, llanitedave wrote: >=20 > > On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 10:47:25 AM UTC-7, Maarten wrote: >=20 > >> On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 6:11:10 PM UTC+1, Norah Jones wrote: >=20 > >> >=20 > >> > I want to create a random float array of size 100, with the values i= n the array ranging from 0 to 5. I have tried random.sample(range(5),100) b= ut that does not work. How can i get what i want to achieve? >=20 > >> >=20 > >> Use numpy >=20 > [SNIP] >=20 > > >=20 > > While numpy would work, I fail to see how encouraging the op to downloa= d and install a separate library and learn a whole new set of tools would b= e beneficial by default, without knowing the purpose of the need. This is = like recommending an RPG to fix a sticky door hinge. >=20 >=20 >=20 > This suggestion comes after others that show how to use the stdlib's >=20 > random module. I don't think it's unreasonable to recommend numpy for >=20 > this. If you want to create *arrays* of random numbers then why not >=20 > use a library that provides an API specifically for that? You can test >=20 > yourself to see that numpy is 10x faster for large arrays: >=20 >=20 >=20 > Python 2.7 on Linux: >=20 > $ python -m timeit -s 'import random' -- '[random.uniform(0, 5) for x >=20 > in range(1000)]' >=20 > 1000 loops, best of 3: 729 usec per loop >=20 > $ python -m timeit -s 'import random' -- '[random.random() * 5 for x >=20 > in range(1000)]' >=20 > 1000 loops, best of 3: 296 usec per loop >=20 > $ python -m timeit -s 'import numpy' -- 'numpy.random.uniform(0, 5, 1000)= ' >=20 > 10000 loops, best of 3: 32.2 usec per loop >=20 >=20 >=20 > I would use numpy for this mainly because if I'm creating arrays of >=20 > random numbers I probably want to use them in ways that are easier >=20 > with numpy arrays. There's also a chance the OP might benefit more >=20 > generally from using numpy depending on what they're working on. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Oscar I don't think numpy is unreasonable for you or me. I just started learning= it recently, and I'm pretty jazzed about its possibilities. I obtained an= app for work that uses it, and now it's up to me to maintain it, so learni= ng it is a good idea for me regardless. Now I'm starting to fantasize abou= t other things I could do with it. But the OP appears like a pretty basic beginner, and I really think that fo= r such a entry-level knowledge scale, we should stick to the standard libra= ry until they're ready to take on more sophisticated tasks. "Premature Opt= imization" is the analogy that comes to mind.