Path: csiph.com!news.swapon.de!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'static': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'claimed': 0.07; 'remaining': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'sane': 0.09; 'subject:2.7': 0.09; 'vast': 0.09; '\xe2\x80\x94': 0.09; 'url:blog': 0.10; 'python': 0.10; 'python.': 0.11; 'jan': 0.11; '2.7': 0.13; '(but': 0.15; 'subject: \n ': 0.15; 'already,': 0.16; 'deprecate': 0.16; 'formats,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:user': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'subject:project': 0.18; ';-)': 0.18; 'skip:= 10': 0.18; 'input': 0.18; 'so.': 0.22; 'code.': 0.23; 'written': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'install': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'developers': 0.26; '(which': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'chris': 0.26; 'bugs': 0.27; 'switch': 0.27; 'installed,': 0.29; 'markup': 0.29; 'ago': 0.29; 'subject:/': 0.30; 'fixed': 0.31; 'especially': 0.32; 'builds': 0.33; 'surprised': 0.33; 'unicode': 0.35; 'supports': 0.35; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'display': 0.37; 'turn': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'release': 0.37; 'starting': 0.37; 'means': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'claim': 0.61; 'decision': 0.61; 'subject:The': 0.61; 'more': 0.63; 'website:': 0.65; 'bothered': 0.66; 'decided': 0.66; 'fast,': 0.84; 'flexible,': 0.84; 'galleries,': 0.84; 'subject:survey': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.91; 'subject:results': 0.91; 'survey,': 0.91; 'refuse': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: The Nikola project is deprecating Python 2.7 (+2.x/3.x user survey results) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 19:59:04 -0400 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-59-124-74.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 48 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1443743960 news.xs4all.nl 23762 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45231 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:97322 On 10/1/2015 12:26 PM, Chris Warrick wrote: > The Nikola developers decided to deprecate Python 2.7 support. > Starting with v7.7.2, Nikola will display a warning if Python 2.7 is > used (but it will still be fully supported). In early 2016, Nikola > v8.0.0 will come out, and that release will not support Python 2.7 > officially. How sane ;-) > The decision was made on the basis of a user survey, with 138 > participants. The vast majority of them claimed that they either use > Python 3 already, or can switch really easily. From the survey and description below, 'using Python 3' means having=20 Python 3 installed, not writing Python 3 code. Correct? I must admit that I am surprised that even 7% of those who bothered to=20 answer would claim that they would refuse to even install Py 3. > The main reason for the > switch was the fact that supporting both requires a lot of extra > effort, especially because Python 2.7=E2=80=99s Unicode support is abys= mal. 2.7 unicode bug-fixing pretty much ended a couple of years ago or so.=20 Remaining bugs either have or eventually will be closed as fixed in 3.x. > Full results: https://getnikola.com/blog/env-survey-results-and-the-fut= ure-of-python-27.html > > What is Nikola? > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > Nikola is a static site and blog generator, written in Python. > It can use Mako and Jinja2 templates, and input in many popular markup > formats, such as reStructuredText and Markdown =E2=80=94 and can even t= urn > Jupyter (IPython) Notebooks into blog posts! It also supports image > galleries, and is multilingual. Nikola is flexible, and page builds > are extremely fast, courtesy of doit (which is rebuilding only what > has been changed). > > Find out more at the website: https://getnikola.com/ --=20 Terry Jan Reedy