Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.045 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.91; '*S*': 0.00; 'interfaces': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'gui': 0.12; 'fine).': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'merely': 0.16; 'parameters,': 0.16; 'subject:son': 0.16; 'utterly': 0.16; 'thursday,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'command': 0.22; 'instance,': 0.24; 'lets': 0.24; 'file.': 0.24; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'needed.': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'along': 0.30; 'that.': 0.31; '(although': 0.31; '13,': 0.31; 'invoke': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'stuff': 0.32; 'text': 0.33; 'open': 0.33; 'fri,': 0.33; "i'd": 0.34; 'something': 0.35; 'johnson': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; '14,': 0.36; 'interaction': 0.36; 'interface,': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'browser': 0.61; 'show': 0.63; 'provide': 0.64; 'default': 0.69; 'subject:wants': 0.74; 'click': 0.77; 'cheating': 0.84; 'navigate': 0.91; 'rick': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ddPQTjEU1bU60IKD5b4uE3EDxFYuPA2pUCb+tdJ28Bs=; b=GjB6pUFgrVrKbB+KK37TRq1ZVZdltSdKgG6nfyVo2Z9L3Pf/I4AEuPW2umgKt7n6Tv y/ClTlumg5smEO/0O1SCj/gbBMK6IqvomEPujfAEnNBJ7Ad67Zc8KlSTHEExeNSUMqb6 mSrjYR9K76zMTHYVQhUAQiUAHQdp7bEQKeQ9g7eUS0ON8KFpWS31X3vUiOV+BEUcyA/M pFiY1uWdQL0I3H5a8Aabw6zJwuAr0TfWNRyjpcaPLt3sBHgXmPQz8ldCZhcV4/pafJ9x mHrSmu7odvwOcSFqnKwCHu1jzIi+b/33trXtbQxZWDtN6Qe5G6r26dgY1nX0BNd9gpC1 he4A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.41.105 with SMTP id e9mr231589vel.14.1371182700270; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:05:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <637daa98-9a0e-46ab-bb9a-f5638b7c0038@googlegroups.com> References: <637daa98-9a0e-46ab-bb9a-f5638b7c0038@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 14:05:00 +1000 Subject: Re: My son wants me to teach him Python From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1371182708 news.xs4all.nl 15897 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39652 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:48059 On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Thursday, June 13, 2013 3:18:57 PM UTC-5, Joshua Landau wrote: > >> [...] >> GUI is boring. I don't give a damn about that. If I had it >> my way, I'd never write any interfaces again (although >> designing them is fine). Console interaction is faster to >> do and it lets me do the stuff I *want* to do quicker. > > And are you willing to provide *proof* that the console is > faster? Or is this merely just your "opinion"? I would be > ready and willing to compete in a "Pepsi challenge" to > disprove your claim if needed. For instance, if i want to > open a text file on my machine, i merely navigate to the > file via my file browser interface, using clicks along the > way, and then the final double click will open the text file > using it's default program. Also - Show me an efficient way, with a GUI, to invoke any file with any program with any parameters, without cheating and using something like Alt-F2 to enter a command line. Your solution must be utterly generic. I need to be able to tail -F and tail -f a file. ChrisA