Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.027 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'debug': 0.05; 'subject:postings': 0.07; 'assembler,': 0.16; 'assembly,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'useless.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'written': 0.20; 'bit': 0.21; 'received:209.85.214.174': 0.21; 'satisfying': 0.22; 'suddenly': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'am,': 0.27; 'dos': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'actual': 0.28; 'normally': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'could': 0.32; 'getting': 0.33; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'nov': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'programmers': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'easier': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:209.85.214': 0.39; 'build': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'real': 0.61; 'exercise.': 0.84; 'harness': 0.84; 'angel': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=K9OEv0IQhT3mT+7Su0ks8pbtegZGp1YwG/oVtSMjsro=; b=klPd0rhKOAn2/7hgI1j66DjqmbspaSjDTFNKRAGBKS+U3dvEQoTMixeeUva579x2uQ hW75ufCfBs4RYSvIkMMl/DHjUoW8ERYj6AggY47dgygrzKBxKdsgsixOEIBKYI2nkL2y 76FRgNf3gGrAQn69Em4N7MzvBGrNOe62yuMdTogMaSWw70ShXbpBctk4zwjLIUpVAcmW NaC/KBjiQMfG6lK2Yq9wZ1IS/0E/ajh/CvK0yijvGWVhD8+j+fEF6InnknPKMtkiExZ/ Pje7R/a962h+rsxn/olHrflWVeIolwbxBAc3M9eEDaA+ru7llxcCPTjpwaWIjG2IFdN/ Dtiw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5095290F.9080206@davea.name> References: <5095290F.9080206@davea.name> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 03:05:42 +1100 Subject: Re: Obnoxious postings from Google Groups From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1351958744 news.xs4all.nl 6922 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44690 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:32700 On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:24 AM, Dave Angel wrote: > For the DOS world, real programmers have written a "complete" *.com > program using only echo. Only as an exercise. It was satisfying to prove to myself that I could do it, but pretty useless. Normally I used DEBUG.EXE to build my code - it has a mini-assembler in it. Incidentally, I used debug as a full assembler, with a bit of a REXX harness around it - used that to write OS/2 code in pure assembly, without the bother of, yaknow, getting an actual assembler. Suddenly things got WAY easier once I got hold of nasm... ChrisA