Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.039 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.92; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:postings': 0.07; 'assembler': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'binary.': 0.16; 'have)': 0.16; 'martin': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'written': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'project,': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'machine': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'wrote': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'dos': 0.27; 'source': 0.29; 'code': 0.31; '(and': 0.32; 'getting': 0.33; 'text': 0.34; 'project': 0.34; 'programmers': 0.36; 'editor': 0.37; 'maintaining': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'received:192': 0.39; 'received:192.168': 0.40; 'end': 0.40; 'real': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'header:Reply-To:1': 0.68; 'received:74.208': 0.71; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.72; 'bob': 0.91 Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 10:24:15 -0400 From: Dave Angel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120912 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Martin Subject: Re: Obnoxious postings from Google Groups References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:H9yYbey3hy1b15qGdoyRKNjfU1A74eMmsAwP1jYrq8r 1Hf+a+YBn6g/DqF77D/iSCfxfbaVA4h4azbwd6ikUBcSM+MfdL xJgDWNgu8u8UIatHUxY6uvbfCiH9ge5AxZX3hdZGbuRBeBe4qC ODLtNoF4nAQJlXzD9gpdUMEATTzkX2Ns5HUDnDTdMIwAausaJf r/CWiTsI5k1mmYSB+UR3WLRbujL3WBEZKFl5cowMbL3H5tM9ol JuXAbFEXw3t7Ds8iW7CWOYReSaHzMhhAUqhIZnV767d5IdynNh bPQTclZCpMIB1Mh7bxPJYMWNXbRLdjRhlD/xZpUy8bheNq7aw= = Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: d@davea.name List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1351952680 news.xs4all.nl 6955 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42510 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:32697 On 11/03/2012 03:44 AM, Bob Martin wrote: > >> > Real programmers (can) write in assembler. Real programmers can (and have) write in hex/octal or binary. For my first project at a permanent job, I had to write code for a machine with no assembler. Near the end of the project, I wrote a text editor and (cross) assembler for it, because maintaining the source with pen/ink was getting tedious. For the DOS world, real programmers have written a "complete" *.com program using only echo. -- DaveA