Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'svn': 0.05; 'url:bitbucket': 0.05; 'branching': 0.09; 'cvs': 0.09; 'decision.': 0.09; 'git': 0.09; 'integration,': 0.09; 'merging': 0.09; 'url:github': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'assume': 0.14; 'windows': 0.15; '>>': 0.16; '10:17': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'get,': 0.16; 'svn,': 0.16; 'to:name:python list': 0.16; 'underlying': 0.16; 'url:windows': 0.16; 'workflows.': 0.16; 'all.': 0.16; 'appropriate': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'library': 0.18; '(the': 0.22; 'subversion': 0.24; 'fairly': 0.24; "haven't": 0.24; 'looks': 0.24; '>': 0.26; 'handling': 0.26; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'compared': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; '13,': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'projects.': 0.33; "i'd": 0.34; 'agree': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'common': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'point.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'curious': 0.36; 'doing': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'example,': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'problems': 0.38; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'visual': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'users': 0.40; 'days': 0.60; 'improved': 0.60; 'then,': 0.60; 'new': 0.61; 'hear': 0.63; 'situation': 0.65; 'lack': 0.78; 'killer.': 0.84; 'much,': 0.84; 'subject:Control': 0.84; 'terrible': 0.84; 'habit': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=ivb/Iwl1p4kUB+vyqIvoWQjSCJct5PA6XqWTDAewUCI=; b=TcpnJWZSmAuMRE95lR0UQEqHu/szaaoqiskO0WTRnuU2VZ5KbOIu06gx2EH9r4dsrg LNkE/HvER6wQnrF8/n34IiTvuRtilcHzJsAEUX+4567NhNR746djYFBXwQ4DiXVIrGuY pa3ardIG2I+ykEGUKyJBNdWh/r9CeBxJtAO+Th+Vy2TTIm9RmobSysYGhjGN/hy0RzH0 MYgXnj3//QM84Rinv6QTx6toizNxZ0f8A1E5bjrqMb88h8Mkw3POB84QcTpW/gf+05O7 CUjBzoYkqXcYjn+TalLx2chy4jx9p7IzAcJA6wfFYXDow59sAZFgdhcUtAkkN+6zc320 JFJA== X-Received: by 10.60.42.237 with SMTP id r13mr2345515oel.61.1371162263502; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 15:24:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.42.237 with SMTP id r13mr2345509oel.61.1371162263421; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 15:24:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <98c13a55-dbf2-46a7-a2aa-8c5f052ff375@googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 15:24:23 -0700 Subject: Re: Version Control Software From: Benjamin Kaplan To: Python List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c206aaa412a704df1097e8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlboVwY/ERA4G5xy8LvwqYeg5iCzbT+2EFGFwl1OwJbAJ+wOYR16uxkWPlOQCKZw3Ok3lto4vos6iNgIeiMaJavjf4Gd848QGAUKgFUs0XSl0eF3GBwVX4hswMFGvI7xacOYIwAuRH8RZcE3BTmp0tXuwn6Fw== X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mpv2.tis.cwru.edu) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 97 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1371162273 news.xs4all.nl 15943 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54047 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:48035 --001a11c206aaa412a704df1097e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Jun 13, 2013 10:17 AM, "Grant Edwards" wrote: > > On 2013-06-13, Ben Finney wrote: > > cutems93 writes: > > > >> I am looking for an appropriate version control software for python > >> development, and need professionals' help to make a good decision. > > > >> Currently I am considering four software: git, SVN, CVS, and > >> Mercurial. > > > > These days there is no good reason to use CVS nor Subversion for new > > projects. They are not distributed (the D in DVCS), and they have > > specific design flaws that often cause insidious problems with common > > version control workflows. As a salient example, branching and merging > > are so painful with these tools that many users have learned the > > terrible habit of never doing it at all. > > I agree that branch/merge handling in svn is primitive compared to git > (haven't used hg enough to comment). > > The last time we made the choice (4-5 years ago), Windows support for > get, bzr, and hg was definitely lacking compared to svn. The lack of > something like tortoisesvn for hg/git/bzr was a killer. It looks like > the situation has improved since then, but I'd be curious to hear from > people who do their development on Windows. > There's a TortoiseHg now that works well. http://tortoisehg.bitbucket.org I haven't used it very much, but github has released a git client for Windows. The underlying library is the same one Microsoft uses for the Visual Studio git integration, so I assume it's fairly robust at this point. http://windows.github.com --001a11c206aaa412a704df1097e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Jun 13, 2013 10:17 AM, "Grant Edwards" <invalid@invalid.inv= alid> wrote:
>
> On 2013-06-13, Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> wrote:
> > cutems93 <ms2597@cornell= .edu> writes:
> >
> >> I am looking for an appropriate version control software for = python
> >> development, and need professionals' help to make a good = decision.
> >
> >> Currently I am considering four software: git, SVN, CVS, and<= br> > >> Mercurial.
> >
> > These days there is no good reason to use CVS nor Subversion for = new
> > projects. They are not distributed (the D in DVCS), and they have=
> > specific design flaws that often cause insidious problems with co= mmon
> > version control workflows. As a salient example, branching and me= rging
> > are so painful with these tools that many users have learned the<= br> > > terrible habit of never doing it at all.
>
> I agree that branch/merge handling in svn is primitive compared to git=
> (haven't used hg enough to comment).
>
> The last time we made the choice (4-5 years ago), Windows support for<= br> > get, bzr, and hg was definitely lacking compared to svn. =C2=A0The lac= k of
> something like tortoisesvn for hg/git/bzr was a killer. =C2=A0It looks= like
> the situation has improved since then, but I'd be curious to hear = from
> people who do their development on Windows.
>

There's a TortoiseHg now that works well. http://tortoisehg.bitbucket.org

I haven't used it very much, but github has released a g= it client for Windows.=C2=A0 The underlying library is the same one Microso= ft uses for the Visual Studio git integration, so I assume it's fairly = robust at this point.
http://windows.github.com

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