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Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:28:20 +0100
From: Thomas Bach <thbach@students.uni-mainz.de>
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Subject: Re: Re: Managing multiple packages
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On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 07:58:22PM -0600, Evan Driscoll wrote:
> I'm also pretty confused about the
> distutils/setuptools/distribute/distutils2 landscape and what the
> differences are (at least between the first 3) and what their
> relationships with standard Python are.

In my opinion packaging in Python is at the moment a disaster. The
whole distutils/setuptools/whatever confusion is at least one of the
major sources that this whole topic is so poorly documented and
obviously violates the Zen of Python. Anyways, I think THEY are
working on it. [1] is also a bit clarifying.

Regards,
	Thomas.


Footnotes: 
[1]  http://ziade.org/2010/03/03/the-fate-of-distutils-pycon-summit-packaging-sprint-detailed-report/