Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.071 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.86; '*S*': 0.00; 'explicitly': 0.05; 'expectation': 0.09; 'licenses.': 0.09; 'subject:skip:c 10': 0.09; "wouldn't": 0.14; 'charging': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'janssen': 0.16; 'merit,': 0.16; 'uppercase': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'source': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'words': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'getting': 0.31; 'software,': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'open': 0.33; 'says': 0.33; 'everyone': 0.33; "can't": 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'received:209.85.220': 0.35; 'case,': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; "didn't": 0.36; 'so,': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'free': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'such': 0.63; 'stand': 0.64; 'license': 0.66; 'started.': 0.68; 'internet': 0.71; 'money': 0.72; 'protect': 0.79; 'all!': 0.84; 'facto': 0.84; 'subject:tool': 0.84; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jumlUYMfX7g9ul7QSgvPTUxio1NKuwB4Qbhj9nQ47ac=; b=A0ewU73GUM6+Gzv6oyAjBemsmpJpQ7cEtH3EtFepq+xM+9r65DPgj7VjeDGNAy39uj JXn51wNqYnJj9XtUWnEFq3CRgk/fZZ7dNylSqAscR1P/A0tu1bcaHXPK1zK44UIuiyJQ oOvnL0/5QmvibuFVY1jTZg4TxA8Hb01nbGzzWoBXTQX6LEh1nSOCnuasFs7LmEQQTDS7 YEvVe9Y1WBWu/IXFXO1FIzuj9zmE7kYRq9gu7L48ab5BkMXvCfH/sioZsZQItuU0eHEY dRWVLD5M/5yHhhjyGFRgLeUg54UyUmZu7yvyoSZ0sxs2ZQws9cF99Qxgj9BCVAytFYM2 mn/g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.50.7 with SMTP id y7mr18460568ven.24.1365492102163; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 00:21:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <48f984a0-7702-4cba-9021-06c3985646da@googlegroups.com> <5161f508$0$29995$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51637779.7020209@davea.name> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 17:21:42 +1000 Subject: Re: im.py: a python communications tool From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1365492111 news.xs4all.nl 6842 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52012 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:43129 On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Mark Janssen wrote: > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Mark Janssen wrote: >>> In the case of free (libre) open source >>> software, such a case would have no merit, because such software never >>> promises anyone *anything*. >> >> If that is the case, it's because the software license explicitly says >> so - which is the reason for all those uppercase words in those >> licenses. Which brings us right back to where we started. > > It doesn't have to say so, if it's not charging any money -- there's > no expectation that you're getting anything at all! Where does > everyone come up with these bullshit ideas? And them let them stand > as de facto law? Where do YOU come up with the idea that you can't be sued if money didn't change hands? In what jurisdiction is that true? Unless it's true in every jurisdiction that the internet touches, I wouldn't trust it to protect me. ChrisA