Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!news.roellig-ltd.de!open-news-network.org!border2.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'builtin': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'statements': 0.09; 'sfxlen:2': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'builtins.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'strange,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'else,': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'integer': 0.24; 'replace': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'class.': 0.26; 'equivalent': 0.26; 'pass': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; '>>>>': 0.31; 'class': 0.32; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'wrong': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'same.': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'such': 0.63; 'surprise': 0.74; "'3'": 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: anomaly Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 13:09:12 -0400 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-98-114-97-173.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 In-Reply-To: Cc: python-dev@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1431277765 news.xs4all.nl 2897 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37258 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:90300 On 5/10/2015 12:34 PM, Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen wrote: > Here's something that might be wrong in Python (tried on v2.7): You are being hypnotized by the fact the 'int' is a builtin name. Builtin names are not keywords and can intentionally be rebound. If you rebind randomly, the result may seem strange, but is predictable. This is why be recommend not randomly reusing names of builtins. >>>> class int(str): pass This in effect rebinds 'int' to the str class. The work 'int' no longer has any connect to the builtin integer class. >>>> int(3) Equivalent to str(3) > '3' No surprise that str(3) == '3'. Replace 'int' with anything else, such as 'zyz' or 'Mark' in both statements and the result is the same. -- Terry Jan Reedy