Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.105 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.79; '*S*': 0.00; 'differently': 0.07; 'expressions': 0.07; 'english,': 0.09; 'follows.': 0.09; 'happens.': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'subject:Help': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'programs.': 0.14; 'slight': 0.16; 'stuff.': 0.16; 'subject:Got': 0.16; 'subject:Plz': 0.16; 'subject:make': 0.16; 'write.': 0.16; 'programming': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'speakers': 0.26; 'least': 0.26; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'correct': 0.29; 'bigger': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'developers.': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.33; 'totally': 0.33; '"the': 0.34; 'sense': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'words,': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'version,': 0.38; 'explain': 0.39; 'indian': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'read': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'forum': 0.61; 'subject: !': 0.61; 'kind': 0.63; 'provide': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'different': 0.65; 'countries.': 0.65; 'phone': 0.66; 'world': 0.66; 'here': 0.66; 'funny': 0.74; 'subject:your': 0.76; 'dialect': 0.84; 'different.': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; 'reframe': 0.84; 'subject: ! ': 0.84; 'joel': 0.91; 'mean.': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=n4EjfB6vx5UHoJ0Ghs/MFKwTFn5SKkNdhekBnr5YQWw=; b=BD+DhmT/NZMpc0jct1JIL+k//4lhFWDewDj5zeJd68jJnyHN+hivIgfJ/Uw5q27luQ qyHBSaCiH8/r/C23xp/+4DoLQ0RwDMQT4hWmINKMi1BCUBc6/7jcndp6NOGqrX5Rc4zn SLaXYdHkr9ltV0D6ZuUEdlB8eDUtq0Q6h6xIdQS9ke7rfgYxMG+pBqkZ6ylMmffCC+5j NRAmYk3zl/hoTeUsYVN58zXi+JSo6V7bpPzjbURrZACxLQCcrqmFGwkmn90Bge+A5Wtn pU03PW8Xbt/gLCKM/jqKDTeH236LKILjNhCNDHhMO/NjB/la0gJ9KQXA3TVBxD5YekHo 16UQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.111.161 with SMTP id ij1mr1488825vdb.33.1385409907513; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:05:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5293AAC1.4010902@rece.vub.ac.be> References: <5290105a$0$29993$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5293AAC1.4010902@rece.vub.ac.be> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 15:05:07 -0500 Subject: Re: Got a Doubt ! Wanting for your Help ! Plz make it ASAP ! From: Joel Goldstick To: Antoon Pardon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "python-list@python.org" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 38 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1385409910 news.xs4all.nl 15963 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49894 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:60448 >> I'm not an expert on Indian English, but I understand that in that >> dialect it is grammatically correct to say "the codes", just as in UK and >> US English it is grammatically correct to say "the programs". >> >> In other words, in UK/US English, "code" in the sense of programming code >> is an uncountable noun, like "rice" or "air", while in Indian English it >> is a countable noun like cats or programs. We have to say "give me two >> samples of code", or perhaps "two code samples", while an Indian speaker >> might say "give me two codes". >> >> As this is an international forum, it behoves us all to make allowances >> for slight difference in dialect. > > I don't see how that follows. I would say on the contrary. This being > an international forum people should try to reframe from burdening > lots of other people with expressions most people will not understand > or even misunderstand. > > -- > Antoon Pardon > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list I see the different idioms as kind of interesting, and funny sometimes, but I don't think they pose a big barrier. Mostly, people don't provide OS or python version, or explain what they done and what happens. That makes it harder to respond than figuring out how different people around the world say stuff. I'm from US and I have done lots of phone calls with Indian developers. To me it sounds strange to talk about codes, but I totally understand what they mean. A bigger problem I have had is in understanding accents during multi person phone calls with people from other countries. Different 'English' speakers actually speak more differently than we write. At least here we can read the words, even if they are different. -- Joel Goldstick http://joelgoldstick.com