Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.029 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'anyway.': 0.05; 'correct.': 0.07; 'friend.': 0.07; 'mouse': 0.07; 'indicates': 0.09; '>on': 0.16; 'from:addr:cs': 0.16; 'from:addr:zip.com.au': 0.16; 'from:name:cameron simpson': 0.16; 'highlight': 0.16; 'message-id:@cskk.homeip.net': 0.16; 'simpson': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'convenient': 0.24; "shouldn't": 0.24; 'text,': 0.24; 'cheers,': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'primary': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'unix': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'accidentally': 0.31; 'are.': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'selection': 0.32; 'text': 0.33; 'style': 0.33; 'copying': 0.34; 'there,': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'leads': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'itself': 0.39; 'delete': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'ian': 0.60; 'middle': 0.60; 'back': 0.62; 'content-disposition:inline': 0.62; 'more': 0.64; 'mar': 0.68; 'friends': 0.81; '2015': 0.84; 'action.': 0.84; 'click.': 0.84; 'received:192.168.15': 0.84; 'absolutely': 0.87 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 09:35:20 +1100 From: Cameron Simpson To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Supply condition in function call MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <55167b09$0$13013$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) References: <55167b09$0$13013$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.19 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1427668529 news.xs4all.nl 2964 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:41462 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:88290 On 28Mar2015 20:57, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 08:19 pm, Ian Kelly wrote: >> I've never been a fan of the primary selection style anyway. Copying >> text is conceptually an action. Selecting text is how one indicates >> the target of an action; conceptually it is not an action itself and >> shouldn't cause an action to be performed. It leads to muddled >> processes like "highlight this text, paste it there, highlight that >> text, delete it, paste in the replacement text from before -- oops, I >> accidentally pasted back in the text that I just deleted instead." > >Everything you say is absolutely correct. And yet middle-click paste is so >convenient when it works that I all but cry from frustration when I find an >application that doesn't support it. In xterm and I think several other X11 terminals, Shift-Insert pastes. I found that _way_ more convenient than middle click. The mouse is not your friend. Cheers, Cameron Simpson Unix is user-friendly. It's just picky about who its friends are.