Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.014 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'debugging.': 0.09; 'forcing': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'gui': 0.12; "wouldn't": 0.14; '(use': 0.16; 'kern': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:GUI': 0.16; 'underlying': 0.16; 'thursday,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'things.': 0.19; 'code,': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'interpret': 0.24; 'why.': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'fixed': 0.29; 'michael': 0.29; 'designer': 0.30; 'robert': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'program,': 0.31; 'etc': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'programming,': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'button': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; '12,': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'managers': 0.61; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'different': 0.65; 'world': 0.66; 'believe': 0.68; 'designers': 0.74; 'eco': 0.84; 'native.': 0.84; 'terrible': 0.84; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Robert Kern Subject: Re: Python GUI? Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:23:54 +0100 References: <1a8b14b3-85f3-4515-ba43-9b40e1a89f1d@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.1.240.226 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1379003100 news.xs4all.nl 15983 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33158 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:54064 On 2013-09-12 17:03, eamonnrea@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:05:14 AM UTC+1, Michael Torrie wrote: >> On 09/11/2013 02:55 PM, eamonnrea@gmail.com wrote: >> Possibly. I know Qt and Gtk both can flip the button orders, etc to >> look more native. And all good toolkits give you layout managers so you >> never have to resort to fixed layouts. Qt's layout system is very >> different than Gtk's, but once you get the feel of it (use the Qt >> Designer program!), it makes a lot of sense. > > I didn't realise GTK has a GUI designer too :( > > I don't like it when you can D&D to position things. I don't understand why someone wouldn't want to write the positioning code, and have fun with the debugging. That's the best part about writing a program, in my opinion. I'm against D&D with programming, and I'm not sure why. There is nothing forcing you to use the GUI designers if you don't want to. -- Robert Kern "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." -- Umberto Eco