Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'bug.': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'already.': 0.09; 'from:addr:ethan': 0.09; 'from:addr:stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'from:name:ethan furman': 0.09; 'message-id:@stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'received:184.172': 0.09; 'received:gator410.hostgator.com': 0.09; 'subject:()': 0.09; 'subtle': 0.09; '~ethan~': 0.09; 'bug': 0.10; 'btw:': 0.16; 'invoking': 0.16; 'subject:array': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'fix': 0.17; 'thu,': 0.17; 'fixing': 0.22; 'allows': 0.25; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'andrew': 0.27; 'crash': 0.29; 'objects': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; "aren't": 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'weeks': 0.33; 'nov': 0.35; 'doing': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'uses': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'strange': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'received:69.56': 0.65; 'risk': 0.66; 'syndrome': 0.84; 'to:name:python': 0.84 Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:55:46 -0700 From: Ethan Furman User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Python Subject: Re: Negative array indicies and slice() References: <509053F2.6020900@r3dsolutions.com> <50912ADC.2020401@r3dsolutions.com> <50918716.3080305@r3dsolutions.com> <5092833F.4070609@stoneleaf.us> <50925DE6.7020100@r3dsolutions.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator410.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - stoneleaf.us X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([192.168.11.101]) [173.12.184.238]:50592 X-Source-Auth: ethan+stoneleaf.us X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: dG9idWs7dG9idWs7Z2F0b3I0MTAuaG9zdGdhdG9yLmNvbQ== X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 11 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1351803670 news.xs4all.nl 6935 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46494 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:32571 Ian Kelly wrote: > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Andrew Robinson wrote: >> Don't bother to fix the bug; allow Python to crash with a subtle bug that often take weeks to track down by the very small minority doing strange things (Equivalent to the "monkey patch" syndrome of D'Aprano; BTW: The longer the bug is left unfixed, the more people will invent "uses" for it ) > > It's been 6 years already. AFAIK nobody has invented any uses that > are actually at risk of invoking the GC bug. The bug is not that slice allows non-numbers, but that slice objects aren't tracked by gc; I'm not seeing an issue with not fixing the bug. ~Ethan~