Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!bete-des-vosges.org!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.015 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'heavily': 0.04; 'trac': 0.05; 'git': 0.09; 'happens.': 0.09; 'host,': 0.09; 'subject:hosting': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'bug': 0.12; 'co,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'with?': 0.16; 'proprietary': 0.16; 'do,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'cheap': 0.19; 'projects,': 0.19; 'example': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'convenient': 0.24; 'issue,': 0.24; 'of.': 0.24; 'subject:Code': 0.24; 'paul': 0.24; "haven't": 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'sort': 0.25; "i've": 0.25; 'tracker': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'tried': 0.27; 'host': 0.29; 'raise': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'usually': 0.31; '13,': 0.31; 'informative': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'quite': 0.32; 'open': 0.33; 'entirely': 0.33; 'fri,': 0.33; 'not.': 0.33; 'there,': 0.34; 'something': 0.35; 'no,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'smtp': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; 'thanks': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'operating': 0.37; 'loss': 0.38; 'sometimes': 0.38; 'issue': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'moving': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'easy': 0.60; 'course.': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'new': 0.61; 'course': 0.61; "you've": 0.63; 'reach': 0.63; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'decided': 0.64; 'worth': 0.66; 'mar': 0.68; '2015': 0.84; 'around,': 0.84; 'etc,': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=9e/06TAUDctMlzEIlyT+wEcIArdwFB+l0ovesT+ke2g=; b=Ad6HkC4wjEcVnsE+8aaJsisna3uuv3pPSoJUKbndPqs+vBNmgCm+i40FzodQVcMsjK kiGryCRxkUuLfbK9D+PeligszlI1iQT/BGDcyh0uEXBR+7cgmZ8x0BLpy2xytBIaNCsE CQE5x6BxTOLeXtxkmHhEwj44DpmlATIpdeL0CYYMm+iRVI919z9/zSTih3Q0Dazzveo6 EYKTBK93jk4Ad2mlCHtXd38dh3zS7JtDhho/zVTFmfDdk+9qPnuQAiQAAmAccnmN2EkJ HRf2TtlnGBqsn5fBEAv5JDEeHMypl44OOv4l0CBrycZCYf9eQ6d0to2+t34BKxYoEnPi WgTQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.51.68 with SMTP id d4mr54812407icg.26.1426235636439; Fri, 13 Mar 2015 01:33:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87a8zhxyr4.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> References: <36a41718-3eb6-445b-ba5b-caf124122542@googlegroups.com> <87a8zhxyr4.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2015 19:33:56 +1100 Subject: Re: Code hosting providers From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.19 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1426235640 news.xs4all.nl 2874 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50825 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:87360 On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Paul Rubin wrote: > Thanks for that informative post: I've been uncomfortable with the reach > of Github and you've done a good job explaining the reasons. > > I personally use self-hosted git repositories on cheap VPS servers which > is easy to do, but doesn't supply issue tracking. I know various > projects that use either Trac or Bugzilla but I haven't tried operating > those. It's worth noting, by the way, that sometimes it's worth using a non-federated service. I host most of my projects on GitHub, because the git repo is the part that's most important to me. I don't heavily use the bug tracker attached to any of those projects, nor the gh-pages branch, etc, etc. If ever I need to move off GitHub, the loss of my tracker history is almost entirely non-significant. But if someone goes looking at my repo there, and wants to raise an issue, I'm quite happy to have that come through the tracker - which means that, technically, I am using that non-federated service. It's not something to fear, just something to be aware of. With the example of moving emails around, the hard part usually isn't SMTP and co, but moving your email history. Can you download all your emails in a convenient format for unloading into your new host, or do you get a proprietary .PST file that you have to somehow deal with? I'm not speaking from any sort of experience here, of course. It's not like I've had to deal with several people who decided not to move to an open system because it would be too hard to move their data. No, of course not. That never happens. ChrisA