Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.021 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; '(except': 0.07; 'bootstrap': 0.07; 'subject:file': 0.07; 'executable': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; '3.3,': 0.16; 'behaviour.': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'it),': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; "python's": 0.19; 'written': 0.21; 'import': 0.22; 'lets': 0.24; 'replace': 0.24; 'script.': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; "haven't": 0.24; 'asking': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; '(which': 0.31; '(although': 0.31; '25,': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'stuff': 0.32; 'bugs': 0.33; 'implemented': 0.33; 'maybe': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'tight': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'nov': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'recent': 0.39; 'moving': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'full': 0.61; 'nobody': 0.68; 'power': 0.76; '3.4': 0.84; 'much,': 0.84; 'magical': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1hrFSuSvENsRYE0YPFgq06E9zEIWcyGoP/1l1yMBjPU=; b=rNT2L9VgpiY+jT0xwbPUmSIulJ65j4+/KGXUn1RHc5Lr70KdcMXOImEIgWD1b7cYkJ xnOpJUtvLXHUiiOmix7Huq24VfBQnEQgSnYAbrnx+HpLsCJTpAd7hVGzx1MJvOOtgoFN GcVVOU1rWp0fORcQ3rOgQ29WBC9TTWJZ1wdoMgCGN0T7vU2jeEVK8tQTYJoWtE9ccWUu a2ThimimEEyanYHo1zuh+8P7K5y7CRBFppiG0rwaMCGBUfWcxzIbhgkQghJ6hSfpMGLD oFJnQH4S4+zKgYJMH2Huag13DEbBkmgPzWBONl/6oNVxxoNEP1RvOyCF6LAOhOQqoFf7 WVvA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.67.21.226 with SMTP id hn2mr22777826pad.69.1385303112370; Sun, 24 Nov 2013 06:25:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52920a19$0$29993$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <52920a19$0$29993$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 01:25:12 +1100 Subject: Re: Importing by file name From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1385303116 news.xs4all.nl 15892 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53586 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:60374 On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 1:15 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 19:07:38 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> I know the recent Pythons give a lot of import power to the script. But >> maybe I'm just asking too much, and some of this stuff really is magical >> and implemented in C? > > That was the case up to 3.3, but Python 3.4 has the import machinery re- > written in pure Python (except for a tiny bit of bootstrapping machinery, > if I understand correctly). I understand that nobody understood the > import machinery in full (although there were a couple of people who > understood most of it), and that moving it to Python was a Herculean job. > If I remember correctly, it uncovered a number of undetected bugs and > dark corners with unspecified behaviour. Alright, I'll sit tight for 3.4 beta then... or maybe play with what's currently in trunk (which is my 'python3' executable on Sikorsky). I haven't seen anything that lets me replace the master in that way, but there is a HUGE amount of Python's bootstrap that I have never even peeked into. ChrisA