Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!newsfeed.eweka.nl!eweka.nl!feeder3.eweka.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.113 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.77; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'funny,': 0.09; 'sat,': 0.15; 'clone': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; "he'd": 0.16; 'left,': 0.16; 'simulate': 0.16; 'too).': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'windows': 0.19; 'trying': 0.21; 'bit': 0.21; 'device': 0.24; 'linux': 0.24; 'machine': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'attempted': 0.29; 'installed,': 0.29; 'install': 0.29; 'connection': 0.30; 'minimal': 0.30; 'figure': 0.30; '(and': 0.32; 'mac': 0.32; 'tech': 0.33; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'pm,': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'rather': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'days': 0.60; 'address': 0.60; 'company': 0.60; 'traffic': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'our': 0.65; 'experts': 0.66; 'shop': 0.66; 'phone': 0.68; 'soon': 0.70; 'internet': 0.71; '2002': 0.78; '2013': 0.84; 'cable': 0.84; 'subject:you': 0.88; 'bob': 0.91; 'hassle': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qUQ78+dNJ4AKYWtANImtm2LtPDf5vn89MoW9PJZ5+hE=; b=sX/DC4ERfJNj11GHyozZpClEdNwt8cbLV6oKPFqSUIPgp+WuopJCdYrrx7c5fVJbak +RVLVHO1QJAgnnesLGk/+i9mS7thmfrVswVmbQy43cT1W/rh4No6uS8SPHnSpSmYLG7S /AmQRGZeKOBms+9wrl7y7Oyx6JmF1ZoRyAIGiMQTV8QP/xOkFvoqb6LVilo959BTJznu DpyvbK2DlIwaYHXWz4RLSpwmrWUlb6cWA+jhDYHCk39N8+0eHkgD8j4icqdN0HTRcrSC iSFRny1Ox+OJ7PixDijmTL8MxEt8VjZrbsSfMHkzMPzKC6ALdmhQFmzRAWMQla4dBLz/ lp1A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.29.209 with SMTP id m17mr1667998vdh.111.1362800700826; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 19:45:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <512cb0a0$0$30001$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <57fd0b09-b30d-4e62-845a-aac198113a40@googlegroups.com> <54967758-e84c-4b9c-a09c-10fbdbec230f@googlegroups.com> <63b306c9-db6f-4c4c-b3c6-4c602ba31201@kt16g2000pbb.googlegroups.com> <5136ba3b$0$30001$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 14:45:00 +1100 Subject: Re: Do you feel bad because of the Python docs? From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1362800710 news.xs4all.nl 6908 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55845 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:40926 On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Bob Hanson wrote: > (I was without internet access for a few days while the experts > at the phone company once again attempted to simulate minimal > competence culminating with their "DSL install expert" -- who had > never heard of Linux -- trying to puzzle out my desktop.) I know exactly how that feels. Back in 2002 or thereabouts when we got our current Optus cable connection installed, we were an all-OS/2 shop (and we still have a good bit of OS/2, but there's some Windows and a good bit of Linux around now too). Rather than go through the hassle of having the guy try to figure out OS/2, we just rigged up a temporary Windows box and let him have his fun. Soon as he'd left, we unplugged the network cable from that machine and plugged it into our router (and then did a MAC address clone in the router, as for some reason the device was set to accept traffic only from the NIC the tech had installed). Funny, though, that Linux is still able to be obscure. ChrisA