Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.026 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; '(of': 0.07; 'macros': 0.07; 'discussions': 0.12; 'wrote:': 0.14; 'disagree.': 0.16; 'lisp': 0.16; 'rebert': 0.16; 'things)': 0.16; 'language,': 0.18; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'language': 0.20; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.22; 'received:84': 0.25; 'subject: -- ': 0.25; 'chris': 0.27; 'thanks': 0.29; 'view,': 0.29; 'certainly': 0.29; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.31; 'fairly': 0.33; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.35; 'usually': 0.36; 'think': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'but': 0.38; 'comments': 0.39; 'managing': 0.61; 'video': 0.61; 'strange': 0.65; 'skip:2 20': 0.68; 'have.': 0.73; 'coherent': 0.84; 'philosophy,': 0.84 From: Teemu Likonen To: Chris Rebert Subject: Re: Feature suggestion -- return if true In-Reply-To: (Chris Rebert's message of "Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:26:48 -0700") References: <8abff237-5ccd-4eb6-85c8-cdc9e87520b7@bl1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <87k4eze4dl.fsf@mithlond.arda> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 13:58:32 +0300 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1302692400 news.xs4all.nl 81484 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:34565 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:3123 * 2011-04-12T13:26:48-07:00 * Chris Rebert wrote: > I think Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw's comments on open-world sandbox video > games (of all things) have a lot of applicability to why allowing > full-on macros can be a bad idea. > IOW, a language is usually better for having such discussions and > having a fairly coherent worldview enforced by the existence of a > managing authority. Thanks for the info. That's a strange view, and I must disagree. Lisp people certainly love the power they have. But different language, different philosophy, I guess.