Path: csiph.com!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!uio.no!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'think,': 0.05; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:set': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'extensions': 0.13; 'explicitly': 0.15; 'subject: \n ': 0.15; 'compilers': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'deployment': 0.18; 'variable': 0.18; 'versions': 0.20; 'seems': 0.23; 'tried': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'distribute': 0.27; 'skip:m 30': 0.27; '(e.g.,': 0.27; 'environment': 0.29; 'work.': 0.30; '(i.e.,': 0.30; 'fixed': 0.31; 'older': 0.32; 'that,': 0.34; 'python.org': 0.35; 'installing': 0.35; 'newer': 0.35; 'there': 0.36; 'framework': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'setting': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'means': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'build': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'default': 0.61; 'more': 0.63; 'past,': 0.66; 'searches.': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Andrew Jaffe Subject: OS X Python: can I explicitly set MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET for extensions? Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:20:45 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc37-slam6-2-0-cust33.2-4.cable.virginm.net X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://news.gmane.com:119 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1445253666 news.xs4all.nl 23790 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50089 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:97809 I use the python.org framework build of Python under recent versions of OS X (i.e., 10.11 El Capitan). I need to build some extensions that rely on recent versions of compilers (e.g., C++-11 features). However the python.org python is built to work on older systems as well, for backward compatibility. Hence, it has the environment variable MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.6. This means that extensions are built by default with a toolchain that, I think, mimics gcc-4.2, in particular in terms of what stdlib it searches. In the past, I have fixed this by installing more recent compilers with homebrew and explicitly setting CC, CXX, etc before installation. However, I have tried just setting MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.11, and that seems to work. Is this safe? Are there any downsides? (I don't need to distribute these builds, just use them locally?) Conversely, are there any upsides? Does a newer deployment target allow more recent compilers and/or higher optimizations? -Andrew