Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.092 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.82; '*S*': 0.00; 'messages.': 0.05; 'output': 0.05; 'responding': 0.07; 'subject:getting': 0.07; 'formatting': 0.09; 'interpreted': 0.09; 'seemed': 0.09; 'yeah,': 0.09; 'formatting.': 0.16; 'mine.': 0.16; 'newlines': 0.16; 'thread,': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '(not': 0.18; 'looked': 0.18; 'putting': 0.22; 'saying': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'error': 0.23; "shouldn't": 0.24; 'looks': 0.24; 'post': 0.26; 'least': 0.26; 'skip:" 20': 0.27; 'gets': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'program,': 0.31; 'posting': 0.31; 'lot.': 0.31; 'responded': 0.31; 'stuff': 0.32; 'text': 0.33; '(including': 0.33; 'plain': 0.33; 'subject:from': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'case,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'google': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'html,': 0.36; 'like,': 0.36; 'recipients.': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'wrong': 0.37; 'expected': 0.38; 'mine': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'dave': 0.60; 'matter': 0.61; 'kindly': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'address': 0.63; 'myself': 0.63; 'different': 0.65; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'received:74.208': 0.68; 'email,': 0.69; 'repeat': 0.74; '2015': 0.84; 'domain?': 0.84; 'lately,': 0.84; 'mailer,': 0.84; 'messed': 0.84; 'received:74.208.4.194': 0.84; 'subject:before': 0.84; 'angel': 0.91; 'resolved.': 0.91; "sender's": 0.91; 'sent,': 0.91; 'sorry.': 0.91; 'thoroughly': 0.91 Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 07:13:49 -0400 From: Dave Angel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: getting fieldnames from Dictreader before reading lines References: <554E9E59.2080906@davea.name> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:2UxqbuEgf5trqXkPTmucX8mVSN2gvTxMevTVqmuffypqHnYYuQ9 rttwdUl5YiUN0TZoaVQa7pMBbbEgc/OMFhbQXUYamDcHIavUQcwCw2Fkf/VLhzkZl1jO/nG GTVC5+yiqOr99UzRHnxDCKF6+kw/x13Tgx6/C+HXQ3hcMG4xUS+vXyE3DEZbyICI8vXzPCe JkBV945zQGq3hjZHzozBw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 44 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1431256444 news.xs4all.nl 2845 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56690 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:90283 On 05/09/2015 09:51 PM, Vincent Davis wrote: > On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Dave Angel wrote: >> >> 1) you're top-posting, putting your response BEFORE the stuff you're > responding to. > > > I responded to my own email, seemed ok to top post on myself saying it was > resolved. Yeah, I overreacted. There has been a lot of top-posting lately, but if a message is expected to be the end of the thread, I shouldn't care what it looks like. Sorry. > >> >> 2) both messages are in html, which thoroughly messed up parts of your > error messages. > > I am posting from google mail (not google groups). Kindly let me know if > this email is also html. Still html. It didn't matter in this case, but html can cause painful formatting. And worse, it'll be different for different recipients. So some people will see exactly what was sent, while others will see things messed up a little, or a lot. The formatting can get messed up by the sender's mailer, or by the receiver's mail program, or both. Dennis showed you what your current message looked like, so I won't repeat the whole thing. But your original message had a "multipart/alternative" which gets interpreted as plain text by many mail programs (including mine == Thunderbird), but it was already misformatted, with newlines in the wrong places. And it had an "html", which was correctly formatted, or at least could be interpreted correctly by mine. So the output of google mail was in this case just plain wrong. Any reason you're using google mail when you have your own email address + domain? -- DaveA