Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder5.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'subject:not': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'compiler': 0.07; 'environments': 0.07; 'dan': 0.09; 'filenames': 0.09; 'subject:Why': 0.09; '(before': 0.16; 'behold,': 0.16; 'received:74.208.4.195': 0.16; 'runtime.': 0.16; 'subject:)?': 0.16; 'sure.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'error': 0.23; 'source': 0.25; 'compiled': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'errors': 0.30; 'usually': 0.31; '-0700,': 0.31; 'suites': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'error.': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'ability': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'called': 0.40; 'read': 0.60; 'subject:? ': 0.60; 'effectively': 0.66; 'received:74.208': 0.68; 'subject:you': 0.87; '2013': 0.98 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 22:02:52 -0400 From: Dave Angel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130510 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Do you consider Python a 4GL? Why (not)? References: <51b77f24$0$2271$426a74cc@news.free.fr> In-Reply-To: <51b77f24$0$2271$426a74cc@news.free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:SvjxxgXSycDks/G8ptJceD+gWdne3eAw1lN3Mx0c4Is tUkaVrs76JjBVQqP2JBVCMjjbX8BNoz97EzoziMqDYvIAE+1z5 CjOmc+4q2JGaq5a8OedkDzPY98QcGAItwyoGN6vNBTk+RynnzD gCJNji0yiTo+Dcupz/3LeLp/SRb2EdiAzX+BJhv7YKwTdc3K0p 268RSYd44CBsDGVF3hhVm6IG4Ly6dfAGELgHaf6WAtbH57WL+y 6csYoTdCkeVumyzH5f2Sf8Osq2eqpZLxkMDSsC94twXtK0iXxv DdUmKa8psbEw9SUuwbaaxeUISQjdW15tHs0fXshGcv2+bl1Kw= = X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1371002594 news.xs4all.nl 15942 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54652 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:47728 On 06/11/2013 03:48 PM, Laurent Pointal wrote: > Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > >> On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 18:17:33 -0700, Dan Stromberg >> declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: >> >> > >> The C compiler suites used this ability to read the error log from a >> compile, and move to the line/column in the source file associated with >> each error. (Before "integrated" development environments) > > This is a + for compiled environments that you effectively cannot have with > Python, non-syntaxic errors found at runtime. > Sure. I think they're usually called exceptions. And lo and behold, they come with filenames and line numbers. -- DaveA