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From: Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 20:49:24 -0800
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On 25 Nov 2011 00:16:06 GMT, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> declaimed the following in
gmane.comp.python.general:

> As far as I can tell, nobody running the 64-bit version of Windows 7 has 
> chimed in to either confirm or refute W. eWatson's claim that IDLE 
> doesn't show up, so we have no way of telling whether it doesn't show up 
> due to a lack in the installer, or because eWatson has (slightly) broken 
> his system and has inadvertently prevented it from showing up.
>
	I have both 64 and 32 bit versions of the ActiveState Python
installed on a rather new Win7 laptop.

	This laptop is the ONLY machine I have that even has an IDLE
shortcut in the "start/all programs/<relevant Python entry>". Neither of
my WinXP machines have IDLE shortcuts /anywhere/ -- much less on a
right-click menu (except for the short test I did earlier when I created
an "edit with IDLE" entry using the WinXP file-types modification
capability -- which doesn't seem to exist in Win7).

	Oh, and the shortcuts DO work on that machine. Python 2.7 (my XP
machines still have Python 2.5 variants)

	My following comments will be rather blunt, but from what I've seen
(over a few years now), Monsieur Watson is completely uninterested in
learning any features of the operating system in which he is working...
If /anything/ doesn't work as he expects, it is a fault to be fixed,
unpaid, by someone on a public forum, and fixed in a form that requires
minimal effort on his part. Any IT support tech could create the needed
shortcuts and menu entries in under 10 minutes -- but that would require
confessing that one may be incompetent WRT the basic features of the OS
they are using.

	In contrast, I've been tweaking the registry since Win95 days -- I
don't understand those nasty "GUID" entries, but finding blatant
left-over garbage from uninstalled software tends to be easy (sometimes
I've even done the work to trace GUID referenced by the left-overs)

	How any prior installation had an "edit with IDLE" context menu is
beyond me -- I've never seen one before that wasn't created by hand. Of
course, all my Windows systems have used the ActiveState packaging;
maybe python.org installers do things differently.
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