Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.037 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; '(of': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'message-id:@web.de': 0.09; 'skip:l 60': 0.09; '*any*': 0.16; 'blindly': 0.16; 'default).': 0.16; 'realised': 0.16; 'received:10.249': 0.16; 'seperate': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:installing': 0.16; 'linux': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; '(which': 0.19; 'subject:not': 0.21; "doesn't": 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'from:addr:web.de': 0.23; 'topic.': 0.23; 'besides': 0.24; 'code.': 0.26; 'windows': 0.26; '(and': 0.28; 'now?': 0.30; 'least': 0.30; 'installed': 0.31; 'source': 0.31; 'does': 0.32; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.33; 'there': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.34; 'skip:b 40': 0.34; 'subject:What': 0.34; 'install': 0.35; 'subject:with': 0.36; 'but': 0.37; 'open': 0.38; 'steven': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'ways': 0.39; 'received:de': 0.39; "it's": 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'difference': 0.40; 'custom': 0.61; 'your': 0.61; 'kind': 0.61; 'accounts': 0.64; 'free': 0.64; 'ever': 0.65; 'here': 0.65; 'accounts,': 0.67; 'protection': 0.67; 'period.': 0.73; 'addon': 0.84; 'insecure': 0.84; 'end-user': 0.91; 'subject:know': 0.93 Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 01:32:08 +0100 From: Alexander Kapps User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de-DE; rv:1.9.2.21) Gecko/20110831 Thunderbird/3.1.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE. References: <4ECBF01A.7060507@yahoo.com> <4ECBF80E.9090003@yahoo.com> <4ecedb73$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: <4ecedb73$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:tgRdDLkUTZTzfRq+g+g6lUKZz5Q4acIVNHZf8+8B+PX aNfm+QM5qmTgGJ5VBJHM4sYJrPV/9pTfJhg5onf9kmufCzNT1s 3qDaBklet7h/Vd+LmT9teXP6EQP2vm/nMcogqmDTzvnhhF1nAx mN2QDXohe26cTStp9j5QqMUwg0+WIwJb4wX3sf8YJRwGRBP2p5 c5T0b5ql06nRQX+107OIw== X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 32 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1322181081 news.xs4all.nl 6948 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54609 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:16184 On 25.11.2011 01:04, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > So by your reasoning, that's at least 20 ways to infect my Linux system. > I never realised just how insecure Linux must be! Yes, there are 20+ ways to "infect" your (and mine) Linux system. You cannot trust *any* kind of 3rd party code. Period. Have you ever added a 3rd party repo (PPA or such). Have you ever added some Firefox addon or installed some 3rd-party addition (of any kind) to some program) Where is the protection now? The main difference here is, that Linux makes it easy to seperate administrative accounts from end-user accounts, The custom addon/cmdlet/whatever I give you has the same dangers on Linux as on windows. If you blindly install it, you're owned! > If "sharing code" is considered to be synonymous with "infection", what > does that say about the Free and Open Source Software movement? Completely besides the topic. It's not about "sharing code", but about the seperation between normal and administrative user on the OS level (which Windows still doesn't have by default). > Linux-users-aren't-the-only-people-allowed-to-write-shell-scripts-ly y'rs, But-Linux-Users-aren't-root-by-default-ly y'rs. :)