Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.166 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.76; '*S*': 0.10; '22,': 0.09; 'yeah,': 0.09; 'subject:Help': 0.11; '_do_': 0.16; "children's": 0.16; 'contest.': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'grounds': 0.16; 'herself': 0.16; 'literature,': 0.16; 'son,': 0.16; 'unfair': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'trying': 0.19; '(the': 0.22; 'beauty': 0.24; 'own.': 0.24; 'fine': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'characters': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'obscure': 0.31; 'quite': 0.32; 'fri,': 0.33; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'nov': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; "you'll": 0.62; 'different': 0.65; 'series': 0.66; 'city': 0.66; '19th': 0.68; 'counts': 0.83; 'century': 0.84; 'justice,': 0.84; 'stone': 0.84; 'villains': 0.84; 'absolutely': 0.87; 'british': 0.87; 'lord': 0.91; 'subject:Friend': 0.91; 'justice': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+6FFSQdULNfcNa5yjxwPPqC0k7l2FaXB7vzmoIgVtQU=; b=CS8vJi9MD5jDO7ZGtsnB+d9XWvlxOkwxSlu+KSF5DtDm7on2d+b2BznTbq3vvfjb29 wOdKTx17nV0e+KgvpkhFtgNu+kMwH+jyVuBXPSUFdOcgz+lLH8G2Uny0ySd6RY+2Ho/s /hM2lOs+l/+KP6tHKxjHiTGc7blboF8Z99bgQR9ovbrYnSQpxKP/IJj1J5+xJ3HcbWvg nXDjigziDd4f6WNqOazmjLtJL6TVlTtt3pQOfxH0HUzrzHW5J3mUzM/1FY6cLJm+SHU1 0DKtEbFdcyjToOH6XZTX8D8gFr+jgel3k0BenX4nMddMU7bSYU8YVnzWhyqwUA7iC0gw 6M8w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.225.9 with SMTP id rg9mr7467558pbc.122.1385053842339; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:10:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <0e127888-4bfa-4f14-aa55-df8ef53284a3@googlegroups.com> <528bff92$0$29992$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <528c31e9$0$11089$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <8e4ju.71474$Xe4.3764@fx34.am4> <15a6e59c-1ebc-44dc-9441-b2410a49ab98@googlegroups.com> <528DF430.1060608@rece.vub.ac.be> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 04:10:42 +1100 Subject: Re: Newbie - Trying to Help a Friend From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1385053851 news.xs4all.nl 15867 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35385 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:60170 On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:29 AM, Neil Cerutti wrote: > Many of the main villains in > the book are hilarious and mean-spirited parodies of > a series of British children's literature, The Wombles, > and a British TV show, Steptoe and Son, but the characters work > fine on their own. Yeah, that's definitely the best way to do it. You don't need to know The Beauty Stone to understand that Colinette, in the city of Lenalede, is trying to get herself appointed as Lord Chief Justice on the grounds that (she claims) the current incumbent is unfair in his rulings. But if you _do_ know that obscure 19th century opera, you'll know there's a line in it "And Colinette from Lenalede, who counts herself the fairest there". (The opera has absolutely nothing to do with justice, incidentally. Colinette is entering herself in a beauty contest. Quite a different meaning of "fairest".) ChrisA