Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.nosignal.org!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: UNSURE 0.217 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.57; '*S*': 0.00; 'craft': 0.09; 'sure,': 0.09; 'language': 0.14; 'ambitious': 0.15; 'applies': 0.15; 'grasp': 0.16; 'inverse': 0.16; 'oct': 0.16; 'reasonably': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'mostly': 0.20; 'claimed': 0.22; 'subject:Questions': 0.22; 'seems': 0.23; 'idea': 0.24; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'common': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'older': 0.27; 'possibly': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'argue': 0.29; 'learn,': 0.29; 'case,': 0.29; 'that.': 0.30; 'normally': 0.30; 'received:209.85.215.46': 0.30; "he's": 0.33; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.33; 'point.': 0.33; "can't": 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'too.': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'list.': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'too': 0.36; 'one,': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'speak': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'where': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'think': 0.40; 'most': 0.61; 'matter': 0.61; 'real': 0.61; 'life,': 0.62; 'ever': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'social': 0.69; 'online': 0.70; 'internet': 0.71; 'intelligent': 0.71; 'age': 0.83; 'low': 0.83; 'actually,': 0.84; 'darn': 0.84; 'hardly': 0.84; 'teen': 0.84; 'teenagers': 0.84; 'teenagers.': 0.84; 'to:name:python': 0.84; 'net.': 0.91; 'speaks': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=yUsDr5mmQ+ZCP4PMzj3PGd6diSftjLct46T9ry1f/1U=; b=tvqP9NYPITuLQPIhyP6MKQ5SciGrdPMboKQZ0arVR/XRXV4tbjtQtyaD8b2YIiapXp 7+q/YpZUQvCaXoywl+lt/IdjdNeXdwQEtjB+zpY+XPXPOEbA2HLFUekPwy9Cm/dB64Wn q2OMnOHZRRgOFdAzgNoeUR0mcDGS6PBoxXsBWKwHx6bkqsk6uc1cf6j6meZvkZ9Sr+rU 5tGLzMCVbiltf6TiG/7iL3zSraKugqWbZ2AUJq2hWzt2eaJCM6BswWY6B8MZ6BQ8nbzL +O9dMrkRywHK0dB10l9zrSYLTqEXMvpGhBBGvJ04CFHCjfP1f3dQ/AzMvUksqoFx8CoM R7oA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <988533988.834634.1350400381609.JavaMail.root@sequans.com> <507D7B92.9070704@gmail.com> From: Ian Kelly Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 11:57:34 -0600 Subject: Re: OT Questions To: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:52:09 +0100 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1351518730 news.xs4all.nl 6968 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50220 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:32378 On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Joshua Landau wrote: > I feel necessity to argue against this point. > > It is a common thing to stereotype teens in this way - but, being teen > myself, I feel one should try to avoid it. It's painful to watch every time > someone claims "he can't be a teenager - his spelling/grammar is too good" > or any derivation of it, as with the inverse concept that the uneducated are > always teenagers. > > i have techers who type lke this, and I have teachers who type very > professionally. > I have peers of my age group who meticulously craft their online > conversations, n i no BFFs who dun b like that. > > How someone speaks on the internet seems to me proportional almost entirely > to their intelligence*, not to their wisdom. Sure, there is an age where > one, no matter how bright, will speak like trash, but this normally > coincides with an inability to speak well, too. Most older teenagers have as > good a grasp on language as they will ever learn, so it hardly applies to > them. The aggressive defensiveness had me thinking intelligent *younger* teenager, actually, possibly a tween. Mostly though the idea was based on what I had seen of his website, which reminded me of some of the ambitious efforts of myself and my peers when I was around that age myself. In any case, he's claimed to be older, so with no real evidence to the contrary, I will take his word for it. > * Note that I speak not of IQ or problem-solving ability, but more of a > general social intelligence that can be seen in almost any poster on this > list. My social intelligence is pretty darn low in real life, but I like to think that I comport myself reasonably well on the net.